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If you haven’t watched the full episode with Fran Bell yet, start there for the context behind this session: • When Your Intuition Whispers, Do You Listen? In this episode of Open Heart, Priya Rao, MD spends time with Fran Bell inside her office, offering a behind-the-scenes look at how integrative healing unfolds in real time. Rather than a conceptual conversation, this episode centers on observation, presence, and what it looks like to work with the body when symptoms, emotions, and life context are addressed together. In this conversation, they explore: ■ What it looks like to enter a healing session ■ How the nervous system, physical tension, and emotional patterns are assessed through direct engagement with the body ■ The role of touch, attention, and pacing in creating a sense of safety and participation ■ How physical symptoms are explored alongside life stressors, decision-making, and fatigue ■ Why healing work often focuses on restoring responsiveness rather than fixing a specific problem ■ How gratitude, rest, and nourishment are discussed as lived practices rather than prescriptions ■ The tension between wanting clear answers and allowing the body to guide the process ■ What it means to participate in healing without certainty about outcomes Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and connecting with the body 01:10 Observing the nervous system and physical responsiveness 01:55 Evaluating tension and fatigue patterns 03:00 Beginning physical adjustments 09:08 The role of gratitude in the session 12:48 Discussing nutritional support and deficiency 15:16 Emotional and energetic patterns 21:15 Thyroid and antibody concerns 22:14 Exploring flow and responsiveness 22:52 Changes in lifestyle and awareness 24:08 Fatigue, rest, and self-care 26:31 What it means to hold the role of a healer 28:58 Grief, loss, and integration 32:50 Integrity in healing work 41:29 Connection with nature and grounding 43:05 Healing with horses The conversation invites viewers into the experience itself, without explanation or persuasion, allowing space to notice what feels unfamiliar, what feels grounding, and what questions arise when healing does not follow a linear or purely cognitive path. Fran Bell works with people whose symptoms or sense of imbalance have not been fully resolved through conventional approaches alone. Her work is shaped by years of direct engagement with the body, injury, and recovery. In this episode, her perspective is experienced rather than explained, offering viewers a chance to witness how integrative healing can look in practice without requiring belief or agreement. Follow Fran Bell Website: https://franbell.com Instagram: / franbell_integratedhealing Hosted by Priya Rao, MD Website: https://www.openheartpodcast.com / dr.kothapalli / pkothapallimd Open Heart is a space for grounded conversations examining where systems, training, and conventional frameworks fall short of lived human experience. The show explores moments when logic and competence are present, but something still feels incomplete. This episode does not offer conclusions or recommendations. It offers a window into a process that many people are curious about but unsure how to approach. It invites viewers to notice their own responses, questions, and assumptions about healing, especially when it unfolds quietly, relationally, and without clear categories. Subscribe to Open Heart with Priya Rao, MD for grounded conversations with people who are curious about intuition, meaning, and different ways of understanding healing and human experience.