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"I wanted each character to be complex enough and sympathetic enough that there's some deep reason you could identify in yourself." — Elizabeth Lo How do you tell a story that's intimate, ethically complicated, and rooted in real-life secrecy—without exploiting your subjects? In this episode, Rain Bennett speaks with acclaimed documentary filmmaker Elizabeth Lo, director of Mistress Dispeller, one of the most talked-about films this year. The film follows a professional “mistress dispeller” in China hired to break up extramarital affairs on behalf of betrayed spouses—yes, it’s exactly what it sounds like. Elizabeth opens up about how she gained the trust of real people in real love triangles, how she balanced empathy with narrative clarity, and how she created emotional tension through stillness instead of sensationalism. They discuss ethical gray areas, building documentaries without control, and letting stories unfold naturally while still crafting a cohesive arc. If you’re a nonfiction filmmaker or just someone interested in telling hard stories with humanity, this episode is a must-listen. In this episode, you will learn to: Earn the trust of documentary subjects by building long-term, authentic relationships Let stories unfold naturally instead of forcing a narrative structure Navigate ethical storytelling with sensitive, real-world material Use stillness and silence to create emotional tension Align your personal values with the stories you choose to tell CHAPTERS 00:00 – How Do You Film Secrets and Affairs Respectfully? 01:30 – Welcome: Why Mistress Dispeller Blew Rain’s Mind 06:00 – Building a Story Around a Real, Active Love Triangle 08:20 – How Elizabeth Found This Industry and Gained Access 11:00 – From Stray Dogs to Straying Spouses: A Filmmaker’s Journey 14:10 – Exploring Margins: Dogs, Mistresses, and Narrative Perspective 16:20 – Choosing Empathy Over Sensationalism in Casting 18:10 – When Access Is Earned Through Trust and Vouching 20:00 – Ethical Filmmaking When Deception Is Part of the Story 22:30 – Letting Subjects See the Film Before Final Consent 25:00 – How the Mistress Dispeller Found Her Calling 27:00 – When Filmmaking Becomes a Tool for Emotional Closure 29:20 – Discovering Documentary in Film School 31:00 – The Unexpected Humor and Humanity of Mistress Dispeller 33:30 – How Stillness Builds Tension in Nonfiction Film 36:00 – Avoiding Frankenbiting: Letting Scenes Play Out Naturally 39:45 – The Role of a Strong Producer When Trust Wavers 42:00 – The Value of Patience and Persistence in the Field 44:30 – Advice for First-Time Documentarians: Let Go of Control 47:20 – Art vs. Ethics: How to Stay Grounded in Your Vision 49:00 – Why Elizabeth Chooses Stories that Challenge Dominant Narratives 52:00 – Final Thoughts: What the Story Taught the Storyteller For more storytelling tips and tricks, Visit the website: https://www.rainbennett.com/ https://www.thestorytellinglabpodcast... Follow on TikTok: / rainbennett.storyteller Follow on Instagram: / rainbennett Follow on Facebook: / thestorytellinglab And don't forget to SUBSCRIBE HERE and hit the bell icon!