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What does modern development cooperation look like when digital infrastructure and AI readiness shape national competitiveness? Lembit Loo sits down with Mariin Ratnik (Undersecretary of Economic Development and Development Cooperation, Estonia MFA) to explore how Estonia connects trade, diplomacy, and capability-building—from Ukraine’s reconstruction to long-term digital partnerships in Africa. This episode covers Estonia’s delivery model (Ministry as strategist, agency as implementer), why interoperability and trust matter more than shiny apps, and the big question: can governments leapfrog into AI-era services if their foundational digital layer is incomplete? Topics: EstDev’s scaling model and EU-grade implementation capacity Trade diplomacy + development cooperation as one system Ukraine reconstruction and “build back better” with EU alignment Digital public infrastructure: ID, interoperability, governance, trust GovStack / digital public goods and avoiding lock-in The AI leapfrog debate: sequencing, prerequisites, and realism 🔗 Connect with Mariin Ratnik: linkedin.com/in/mariin-ratnik-3141b8278 🔗 Learn more about Estonian General Intelligence: egi.ee 🔗 Powered by Portata.ai — Infrastructure for Intelligent Societies 📧 Join the conversation: podcast@egi.ee