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Sometimes growth isn’t about chasing bigger jobs. It’s about building better systems. In this episode, we sit down with a builder who’s done exactly that. In Part 1 of this conversation, Dale Cheesman from The Melbourne Builder joins hosts Dean Backman and Luke Callery on the Build Insite Podcast to unpack a career that spans high-end residential builds, large-scale event spaces, and in-house joinery. Dale walks through his journey from a tough carpentry apprenticeship to building a multi-arm construction business. He did it not by chasing dollars, but by focusing on people, process, and systems that scale. From fast-track event deadlines at the Melbourne Cup and Grand Prix to applying “sprint” thinking to residential projects, this episode is packed with real-world lessons for builders navigating growth, pressure, and changing markets. This is an honest look at what it takes to evolve from being on the tools to running a resilient construction business, without losing quality along the way. What You’ll Learn in This Episode • How focusing on systems and people drives sustainable growth • Why event construction teaches speed, clarity, and decision-making • The real value of broad trade exposure early in your career • When to step off the tools and replace yourself in the business • How deadlines, sprints, and structure improve build quality Chapters 00:00 – Systems over dollars 00:13 – Welcome to Build Insite 00:32 – Meet Dale Cheesman 01:19 – Starting out in carpentry 03:30 – Early business and partnerships 04:20 – Founding The Melbourne Builder 05:46 – From tools to admin and leadership 08:49 – Getting a builder’s licence young 11:36 – Replacing yourself in the business 14:00 – Defining high-end residential 15:03 – Joinery and the move into events 18:02 – Event builds, deadlines, and pressure 21:42 – Applying event speed to residential 24:54 – Market shifts in high-end resi 26:29 – Wrap-up and Part 2 preview Hosts: Dean Backman & Luke Callery Guest: Dale Cheesman from The Melbourn Builder 🎧 Listen to the Build Insite Podcast on: Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. 🌐 Explore more at: https://buildinsite.com.au 📸 Follow us on Instagram: @build.insite