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If you've ever gone through a major career change, lost a piece of your identity, or just felt like you didn't recognize yourself anymore in your own career, this conversation is going to hit home. Whether you're facing a pivot right now or just trying to figure out who you are in this season of your life, stick around for this one. What happens when the thing you built your entire identity around is just... gone? In this episode of WaterCooler Wednesday, I sat down with Casey Spiegel, the Cell Phone Guru, who spent 15 years building Forever Wireless into a 10-location business and then walked away from it all. And what followed wasn't some clean, inspiring career pivot. It was mourning. It was embarrassment. It was a full-on identity crisis. And eventually, it was a rebuild that looked nothing like what he expected. Casey gets really honest here about what it felt like to go from being the boss to being the new guy. About the ego that comes with entrepreneurship and the much harder ego check of letting it go. He talks about almost starting another business just to prove to himself that he was still "that guy" and catching himself before he made that mistake. And about how his father-in-law introduced him to a word that changed everything for him: intrapreneur. We also got into what it means to actually be present as a father when your previous career would have made that nearly impossible. How leaders can support entrepreneurial employees instead of boxing them in. And why failure isn't the opposite of success. It's literally part of it. TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 Introduction 4:00 Six and Sixty rapid fire 6:00 Who is Casey Spiegel, really? 10:00 Where Casey ended and Forever Wireless began 14:00 Health crisis, closing the business, and learning to mourn 20:00 Going from boss to employee 25:00 The intrapreneur mindset 33:00 How employees can start taking entrepreneurial initiative 36:00 Which version of Casey is healthier? 41:00 Random acts of community and scratching the itch 43:00 Fatherhood on this side of the transition 48:00 Why failure is part of success 52:00 The white van metaphor and repurposing your tools 56:00 What Casey Spiegel is really about