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#divorce #divorcehelp #divorcepodcast #divorceresources In Episode 205 we got to talk with Lisa Johnson @BeenThereGotOut about fighting smart. When the legal system becomes a weapon, how do you protect yourself—and your children? In this compelling conversation, Rhonda is joined by Lisa Johnson, co-founder of Been There, Got Out, to expose the realities of legal abuse, coercive control, and the hidden challenges self-represented litigants face in high-conflict divorce and custody battles. Lisa shares both her lived experience and professional insights to equip listeners with tools for survival and success in the courtroom. From navigating manipulative exes to choosing the right attorney and crafting a rock-solid parenting plan, this episode is packed with strategy, strength, and solidarity for anyone who feels like the system is stacked against them. 💬 Key Topics Covered: 🔥 What is legal abuse? Recognizing and naming coercive control in court 💡 Jennifer’s Law and how it’s changing the legal landscape for survivors 🧾 The 3 pillars of strong documentation (and how to avoid common mistakes) ⚖️ How to vet attorneys who understand trauma-informed litigation 🎯 Courtroom strategy: Presenting evidence, staying focused, and not getting derailed 🧠 Working with impaired co-parents and using AI and tools strategically 🧩 The essentials of an airtight parenting plan—including therapy clauses and more 💪 Lisa’s story: From surviving the system to helping others take it on Connect with us: 👉 / rhondanoordyk 👉 / rhondanoordyk 👉 / rhondanoordyk Or find more resources https://wfwcdivorce.com/ 📲