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In this podcast episode, REWORK host Kimberly Rhodes talks with David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founder of 37signals and CTO, about his personal shift from using Apple products to exploring Linux and Windows platforms. He discusses the expanded platform integration at 37signals, which now includes all three operating systems. Key Takeaways: 00:21 - The last straw with Apple 06:34 - Discovering Microsoft’s recent improvements and support of developers 10:30 - Linux and Windows work well together 13:27 - The user-friendly and upgradeable Framework laptop 17:45 - Transitioning 37signals to a multi-platform development team 22:58 - David’s recommended computing and operating systems Links and Resources: Steve Ballmer: Developers! - • Steve Ballmer: Developers The Ikea Effect - https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%2... Books by 37signals - https://37signals.com/books Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com Once. com – https://once.com/ Campfire – https://once.com/campfire HEY – https://www.hey.com/ The REWORK podcast – https://37signals.com/podcast/ Let's be social! Twitter: https://x.com/37signals Tiktok: / 37signalshq Instagram: / 37signalshq Newsletter: https://www.basecamp.com/newsletter Rework is a production of 37signals. You can find show notes and transcripts on our website. Full video episodes are available on YouTube and X. If you have a question for Jason or David about a better way to work and run your business, leave us a voicemail at 708-628-7850 or email, and we might answer it on a future episode.