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In this week's episode of WSJ’s Take On the Week, co-host Miriam Gottfried and guest host Dan Gallagher, a tech columnist for Heard on the Street, chat with Jefferies software analyst Brent Thill about the recent turbulence in the business software market. They talk about the growing fears that AI will replace the need for traditional software-as-a-service, or SaaS, platforms like Intuit, Salesforce, and Workday. They analyze how the narrative around AI "vibe coding"—where businesses generate their own apps using simple text prompts—has led to a sharp selloff in cloud software stocks. They also note other factors weighing on the sector, including tech layoffs and the shift away from seat-based software pricing models and toward consumption-based metrics. After the break, Thill explains why he thinks the market's fears over AI disrupting major enterprise software are overblown. They explore why large companies won't trust AI with critical systems for payroll, accounting or taxes. Then Thill makes the case for why AI infrastructure and security companies remain safe bets, and why the current tech selloff and depressed valuations are setting the stage for a massive tech M&A boom driven by private-equity firms. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and AI fears in software 00:48 The transition from on-premise to cloud software 02:08 Why AI disruption fears are overblown 03:36 Winners and losers in the AI era 04:59 Security and infrastructure as safe bets 06:09 The Intuit example and vibe coding explained 08:03 Other headwinds facing software companies 10:06 Business model shift from seats to consumption 11:40 The defensibility of trusted systems 13:56 Areas where AI won't replace software 15:40 M&A opportunities in software 18:02 How this differs from past technology shifts 22:35 Why this earnings cycle won't solve the problem 25:56 Where investors are moving their money This is WSJ’s Take On the Week where co-hosts Telis Demos, Heard on the Street’s banking and money columnist, and Miriam Gottfried, WSJ’s investing and wealth management reporter, cut through the noise and dive into markets, the economy and finance—the big trades, key players and business news ahead. Have an idea for a future guest or episode? How can we better help you take on the week? We’d love to hear from you. Email the show at takeontheweek@wsj.com. #WSJ #VibeCoding #SaaS