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In this thought-provoking episode of Hey Man; It’s Ok, Sky Bridges and licensed marriage and family therapist Ryan Heapy sit down with Zander Keig—a veteran, licensed social worker, author, and bridge-builder—to explore how men can protect their mental health in an increasingly polarized and divided world. Zander shares insights from his life growing up in a Mexican Catholic family in Los Angeles, his time working with veterans at the VA, and his work with organizations like Braver Angels and the Prohuman Foundation (http://www.prohumanfoundation.org/) . Together, the conversation digs into depolarization, empathy, identity, and why learning to see the human behind opposing beliefs is essential for personal wellbeing and societal healing. In this episode, we explore: • Why polarization is destroying families, relationships, and mental health • How men can engage in difficult conversations without losing themselves • The difference between activism and bridge building • Why social media amplifies division—and what happens when you step away • How identity, belief systems, and lived experience shape conflict • What it really means to be “pro-human” • Why time, place, and language matter in hard conversations • How prioritizing your own wellbeing makes you a better ally and leader Zander also talks about his book The Third Space: A Non-Conformist Guide to the Universe, his podcasts The Third Space and The Umbrella Hour, and leaves listeners with a powerful call to action: invest in your own mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual wellbeing—because change starts with you. This episode is for men who: • Feel exhausted by political and cultural conflict • Want to stay connected without losing their values • Are navigating family tension, identity, or burnout • Believe empathy is strength—not weakness Because it’s ok to not be ok —and it’s okay to choose humanity over division.