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If you’ve ever spent hours wondering if someone is mad at you, overexplained yourself in a single text, or felt anxious the moment you set a boundary—this conversation is for you. In this interview, I talk with Meg Josephson, a licensed therapist and author of Are You Mad at Me?, about the fawn response—a lesser-known stress response where people avoid conflict, over-attune to others, and abandon themselves to stay “safe.” We cover: The difference between being kind and fawning The role of anger and grief in healing How Meg’s personal story (including her father’s rage and her mother’s Alzheimer’s) shaped her patterns How to write about trauma ethically and purposefully Boundaries as a somatic experience, not a checklist 🧠 It’s deep, honest, and grounded in real healing—not performance. ✨ LINKS: 📖 Preorder Meg’s book: https://megjosephson.com 📦 Learn more about my somatic programs: https://stan.store/kalisomatics #FawnResponse #PeoplePleasing #MegJosephson #SomaticHealing #KaliSomatics