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What happens when a nonlinear art-school thinker enters the hyper-linear world of AI, dashboards, KPIs, and digital growth? In this episode of Founding Voices, Perry sits down with Matt Hampton, digital strategist, business translator, and AI-first systems architect, to explore why the future of artificial intelligence doesn’t belong to tight-underwear thinking. Matt didn’t start in computer science. He started in art school. Two art degrees. Figure drawing. Graphic design. Critical creative thinking. And that foundation, asking better questions, dissecting problems to the marrow, landing planes that nobody saw coming, is exactly what makes him powerful in the AI era. Because here’s the truth: Most leaders don’t suffer from a lack of tools. They suffer from a lack of coherence. AI doesn’t replace thinking. It amplifies it. In this conversation, we explore: Why AI is the job nonlinear thinkers were training for their entire lives How “plug and play” thinking is fundamentally at odds with evolution Why most AI startups are accidentally building products that will be absorbed by OpenAI The difference between signal and noise in the AI gold rush Why local LLMs matter for ownership, IP, and creative sovereignty How to switch between nonlinear creativity and “tight underwear AI mode” when needed And why everything — absolutely everything — is a tool Matt breaks down how art, absurdity (yes, duct-taped bananas included), operating systems, and frontier models are all connected. This is not a conversation about AI features. This is a conversation about intelligence. If you’re building in 2026… If you’re leading in digital… If you’re experimenting with AI but feel the tension between creativity and structure… This episode is for you. 🐙 The Octopus Movement A global human mycelium of nonlinear thinkers shaping a future that cannot be built in straight lines. Explore more: https://theoctopusmovement.com And more about the Founding Members: https://www.theoctopusmovement.org/fo... If this sparks something — follow it. Nonlinear thinking isn’t a strategy. It’s a way of being. And AI just became its dance partner.