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Mariana Castilho (https://x.com/mrncst) has one of the most impressive career trajectories of any designer I’ve ever met. I first saw her while mentoring through Shift Nudge (https://shiftnudge.com/) and within a few years she’s landed roles at Universe, Vercel, and most recently as the first designer at Pierre (https://pierre.co/). One of the keys to her growth has been investing in her skills as an engineer. So a big part of this interview is learning what it takes to transition from designer to builder. Some highlights: The future of design engineering What makes designing dev tools unique How Mariana has grown as a visual designer What it’s like working with design celebrities What it means to care deeply about implementation How she finally succeeded her 3rd time learning to code How teams like Vercel consistently hit a high bar for craft + a lot more Save $200 and join me in enrolling for UI Engineering 101 for designers (https://join.dive.club/ui-engineering...) Mariana’s component library UI Labs (https://www.uilabs.dev/) Mariana led the original design for v0 by Vercel (https://v0.dev/chat) Vercel’s Geist Design System (https://vercel.com/geist/introduction) Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:27 Why Mariana joined Pierre 4:14 What it takes to design in the dev tools space 6:44 How to consistently hit a high bar of craft 8:42 What it looks like to care deeply about implementation 11:10 How Mariana transitioned from designer to builder 16:32 The role of AI in learning how to code 17:45 Defining what it means to "know how to code" 23:18 When Mariana is in Figma vs. code 24:56 How much to systematize a visual language 27:23 How knowing how to code helps her get better feedback 29:16 Design engineers vs. designers 32:53 Will traditional UX work get lost? 36:29 The importance of sharing your work 43:12 The backstory of Mariana's UI Labs project 44:41 Introducing Mariana's UI Engineering 101 course 46:46 Introducing Mariana's UI Engineering 101 course Dive is where the best designers never stop learning 🤿 🌐 dive.club 🐦 twitter.com/joindiveclub Now you can join advanced courses taught by the top designers to help you take a huge leap forward in your career 💪 #productdesign #podcast #uiux