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Is energy medicine a powerful clinical tool… or just very expensive hand-waving? In this episode of Functional Medicine 2.0, Dr. Z tackles one of the most polarizing topics in integrative care — without blind belief or knee-jerk dismissal. Joined by Camille Fish, L.Ac., FDNP, MAcOM, CTNC — an acupuncturist and functional medicine–trained health coach — this is a grounded, honest conversation between clinicians who care more about patient outcomes than protecting a modality. No worship. No trashing. Just discernment. In this episode, we cover: Why some “woo” approaches actually helped patients, even when Dr. Z didn’t want them to Where energy medicine can add value, and where it crosses into irresponsibility Why “this is all you need” is a red flag in any system How practitioner bias (for or against) can block better outcomes Why results matter most — but judgment still matters more If you’ve ever wondered whether energy medicine belongs inside a serious clinical model, or where the line should be drawn, this episode is for you. If you’re quietly thinking, “Yep… this old model is breaking me,” you’re not alone. Functional Medicine 2.0 is where clinicians go when they’re done pretending the current system is fine. Private community. Real implementation. Zero performative BS. Let's go! Join here: https://drzfma.com/join-fm2 Instagram: / _thedrz / functionalmedicine2 / drbrandyzachary Facebook: / functionalmedicine2 [Timestamps] 00:05 – Is energy medicine real or just expensive air? (Intro) 00:23 – Meet Camille Fish, LAc, FDNP 00:37 – Dr. Z’s scientific background and skepticism 01:28 – Exploring “woo-woo” medicine to stay open-minded 02:48 – Camille’s path into acupuncture and results vs explanation 03:53 – Letting results speak louder than bias 05:19 – Referring a complex patient to an energy practitioner 06:15 – Learning energy testing for one patient 07:40 – Surprising patient results with energy work 08:09 – Testing energy medicine with labs and large patient groups 08:53 – Why energy medicine isn’t practitioner-to-practitioner reliable 09:46 – The danger of bias and misuse of energy techniques 10:13 – When energy medicine becomes the only lens 10:40 – Red flags: cure-all claims in alternative medicine 11:09 – Strange but compelling patient stories 12:04 – Ethical concerns with training companies and money motives 13:05 – Putting the patient first over ideology 14:25 – Integrating traditional, functional, and alternative medicine 15:15 – When alternative medicine crosses into misinformation 16:06 – Charlatans exist in every medical system 17:45 – Respecting the depth of acupuncture and TCM 18:44 – Acupuncture success where other treatments failed 19:16 – Craniosacral therapy: skepticism turned curiosity 20:40 – Energy medicine in everyday life 21:37 – Final thoughts: skepticism, openness, and patient outcomes 22:17 – Invitation for listener dialogue 23:00 – Closing remarks #functionalmedicine #energymedicine #acupunctureexplained #functionalmedicine20 #integrativemedicine #holistichealthcare #alternativemedicinedebate #clinicalskepticism #patientoutcomes #evidencevsintuition #energyhealing #acupuncturistpodcast #functionalmedicinepodcast #drzfunctionalmedicine #healthcareethics Tiktok: / functionalmedicine2