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In this episode, Joy Anderson speaks with Denise Hearn about the role of finance in transformative systems change. They discuss various themes, including misconceptions about competition and collaboration, identifying leverage points in market systems, unmasking the narrative of free markets, the power of paradoxes in systems change, understanding emergence in market systems, and envisioning alternative pathways for change. Episode Highlights • 00:00 - Introduction • 02:54 - Misconceptions about Competition and Collaboration • 08:09 - Identifying Leverage Points in Market Systems • 09:05 - Unmasking the Narrative of Free Markets • 13:20 - Anthropomorphising markets • 19:06 - Understanding Paradoxes and Emergence in Market Systems • 29:13 - Envisioning Alternative Pathways for Change Relevant Links • Criterion Institute website (https://criterioninstitute.org/)  and LinkedIn (  / criterion-institute  ) • Joy’s LinkedIn (  / joy-anderson  ) • Denise's LinkedIn (  / denisehearn  )