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What makes teams actually healthy over the long haul? In this conversation with Brian Cromer, we talk about the fundamentals that never stop mattering: caring for people before correcting them, giving the “gift of clarity” (not just big vision), and building cultures where people feel heard and own the mission. Brian also opens up about navigating “church hurt” without becoming bitter, and the work he’s done to grow in empathy and keep his heart soft. 01:00:00 Intro - food talk and skyline chili 01:01:41 Longevity in friendship - why it matters more now 01:04:38 Building healthy teams - care as the first leadership test 01:06:36 “Do leaders really care?” - leading with care in non-church workplaces 01:10:26 The gift of clarity - clear vision vs big vision 01:13:48 Competency vs character - integrity of heart and skill of hand 01:18:22 Vision and execution - systems that deliver vision 01:23:04 Conviction and unity - how to know vision is clear 01:24:15 Meetings and perspective - the water bottle metaphor 01:30:36 Leadership duality - pastor, boss, friend and family culture 01:32:07 “Hat on, hat off” - clarity down and maturity up 01:41:37 Church hurt and heart health - staying soft 01:44:45 Hurt by people, not the church - empathy and grace 01:49:42 Sanctification and grace - leaving room for people’s process 01:52:31 Wrap-up and gratitude About Sidecar Leader: Sidecar Leader is committed to helping church leaders move further, faster—without going alone. Through strategic coaching, creative services, and a proven three-phase process (Discover, Design, Deliver), Sidecar partners with pastors and leadership teams to clarify their vision, overcome challenges, and execute with purpose. Whether you're scaling your church, shifting your strategy, or simply need clarity in your next step, Sidecar helps you lead with confidence. Learn more at sidecarleader.com Contact: info@sidecarleader.com Follow on Instagram: @sidecarleader