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In the latest episode of our video series THINC Deeply, THINC Founder and CEO Mitch Siegler is joined by Yukong Mike Zhao, founder of the Asian American Coalition for Education, and Maya Phillips, a trustee on the Ramona, CA school board. Together, they discuss how lessons from life under totalitarian regimes shape their concerns about ideological instruction in American classrooms. Maya, who grew up in the former Soviet Union, and Mike, who lived through China’s Cultural Revolution, reflect on the dangers of teaching children to see society through rigid categories of oppressor and oppressed. They argue that such frameworks shut down open discussion and risk fostering a culture of victimhood rather than resilience. The conversation explores how schools should teach the difficult chapters of American history honestly while also preserving what has long defined American education: open debate, civic understanding, and an appreciation for the opportunities that have drawn generations of immigrants to the United States.