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What does it really take for an HR leader to decide that change is the right move? In this episode, Jeff Bettinger shares the real story behind multiple corporate relocations, career pivots, and the hard-earned lessons that shaped how he evaluates opportunity. From moving his family across states to weighing financial growth against personal trade-offs, Jeff pulls back the curtain on what those decisions actually look like — not just on paper, but around the dinner table. He talks about knowing yourself first, recognizing when growth requires discomfort, and understanding when staying put is the right call. Jeff also reflects candidly on a role he regrets taking — and the red flags he missed because he was distracted by the upside. For HR leaders considering a change, he offers practical guidance on how to interview the company as rigorously as they interview you — including asking about unwritten rules, power dynamics, turnover patterns, and the conversations no one wants to have. Because deciding when to change roles isn’t just about compensation or title. It’s about fit, growth, timing, family, and the courage to ask the questions that reveal what’s really going on beneath the surface. 00:00 What Are the Unwritten Rules Nobody Wants to Talk About? 00:01 Welcome + Jeff’s Path from Teaching to HR 01:00 “Completely by Purposeful Accident” 01:39 If You Can’t Find Them, Let’s Build Them 02:08 From Recruiting to L&D 02:32 Deciding to Relocate for Work 02:49 Turning Relocation Into a Family Decision 03:56 How Do You Decide an Opportunity Is Worth Moving For? 04:44 Having Honest Conversations with Your Kids 06:03 “You Shouldn’t Make a Career Decision on Me” 06:53 The Trade-Offs of Frequent Relocation 08:34 What the Home-Buying Process Looks Like 09:18 Would You Ever Settle in One Place? 10:10 “I Just Wait to See What the Wind Blew In” 11:06 When Is It Time to Switch Jobs? 11:50 Know Thyself First 13:40 Have You Ever Regretted a Move? 14:22 The Questions I Should Have Asked 15:23 What Are the Unwritten Rules? 16:15 Re-Engineering the Behavioral Interview 17:15 Red Flags in the C-Suite 18:17 The Adventure of Change