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Use code olisunvia at https://incogni.com/olisunvia to get an exclusive 60% off an annual Incogni plan! Generally, theories of wellbeing hold that pain is bad for us; yet, we are often drawn to grieve. We also see the inability to grieve as pitiful and sometimes unjust. Comparatively, depression or melancholy, which seem to share similar symptoms with grief, are undesirable "illnesses" whereas grief is not. This video explores what makes grief good for us despite our full awareness of grief’s severe painfulness. ✧・゚: ✧・゚: i'd love to hear what you all have to say *:・゚✧*:・゚✧ TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 intro 3:55 Michael Cholbi's paper 4:06 1st: grief as masochistic 4:34 2nd: grief endured for greater good 8:02 3rd: grief motivates & is source of self-knowledge 11:22 depression vs. grief 12:39 objection to Cholbi 15:08 defense of Cholbi 15:43 response to defense 19:51 concluding thoughts ★・・・・・★・・・・・★ If you want extra ways to support my channel and get more content, check out my PATREON: patreon.com/oliSUNvia socials: ,, instagram: @olisunvia ,, spotify: liv sun FOR BUSINESS INQUIRIES: [email protected] EDITOR: youtube: @pishifat and twitter: / pishifat ★・・・・・★・・・・・★ SOURCES: Cholbi, Michael. "Finding the Good in Grief: What Augustine Knew but Meursault Couldn't." Journal of the American Philosophical Association 3 (1): 91-105 (2017) Freud, Sigmund. Mourning and Meloncholia. trans. James Strachey. The Hogarth Press: 1917. MUSIC: Leonid Gurevich - Melancholy Michael Giacchino - Married Life Isay Dobroven - Elégie Yury Vesnyak - Jazz Waltz 'Charm' Chopin - Nocturne Op.48 No.1 in C Minor shushubobo - what the bunny doin [no copyright music] • [no copyright music] "what the bunny doin"... Jazz Music #4 tags: grief, depression, loss, value of pain, love, relationship loss, moving on, melancholia, ego superego id, freud, 5 stages of grief, desire to be sad, death, the bear, severance, wandavision, bridge to terabithia, internet analysis, video essay, analysis video, philosophy, movie film tv show, tiktok, twitter, shanspeare, jordan theresa, cj the x, tiffany ferg, alice cappelle, contrapoints, philosophy tube, madisyn brown, chad chad, sisyphus 55, tara mooknee, noah samsen, zoe bee, FD signifier