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Fire departments talk about recruitment constantly — but far fewer are willing to talk about retention. In this episode of Flashover_24 Debrief, we break down why focusing on recruitment before fixing retention creates a revolving door that burns out leaders, drives away good firefighters, and weakens departments from the inside out. We discuss the real reasons firefighters leave, including leadership failures, burnout, culture issues, and unrealistic expectations — not the excuses departments like to blame. This episode covers: Why recruitment doesn’t fix retention problems The hidden cost of losing experienced firefighters How poor culture quietly drives people out What retention actually looks like in the volunteer fire service Why fixing retention makes recruitment easier — and more effective This isn’t about lowering standards or avoiding accountability. It’s about building departments worth staying in. 🔥 Some explicit language 🎙️ Independent fire service podcast Every call deserves a debrief.