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Recently, dog training advocate Zak George asked me about crossover dog trainers, and framed the question in such a different way that it inspired replying with a podcast episode. When I crossed over from balanced training to reinforcement based training in 1996, many people asked me why and told me it would not work. I'm sharing my start in dog training, pivotal moments, people and dogs that led me to change my approach, what I learned about myself along the way, and the reasons I never went back. 📝 Read the transcript: https://dogsthat.com/transcript/episo... 🐾Key Episode Moments: 00:00 My transition to becoming a crossover dog trainer. 01:48 A question from Zak George that inspired this episode. 03:04 When I left balanced training behind and the lead up to that choice. 04:44 What I learned from my terrier puppy, Shelby. 07:44 The first book that changed my thinking by Karen Pryor. 08:13 My first time seeing authentic autonomy and letting the dog have choices. 10:42 My Shaping Badly era - without corrections, with a lot of choice. 13:27 Learning from Bob and Marian Bailey to bring clarity to my training. 14:45 Gaining success by shaping with clarity. 15:46 You cannot help someone you are judging. 19:02 Change is possible. 20:28 How narratives might be getting in your way.. 22:49 Reasons why you might want to change and make the switch. 24:38 Special offer for viewers who want to be coached by me and my team. Special Discounts to Join or Gift our Online Programs Write to us at [email protected] with the subject line: Crossing Over at 300 Resources: 1. Zak George - @zakgeorge 2. Podcast Episode 146: Balanced Dog Training: Does It Really Exist? - • Balanced Dog Training: Does It Really Exis... 3. Book: Don’t Shoot The Dog! By Karen Pryor - https://shop.clickertraining.com/en-c... 4. Podcast Episode 34: Time Outs for Dogs: Does Your Dog Need One? - • Time Outs for Dogs: Does Your Dog Need One... 5. Bob and Marian Bailey: Behavior by Bailey - http://www.behavior1.com/ 6. Podcast Episode 245: Make Dog Training Easy! Quick Guide To Antecedent Arrangements - • Make Dog Training Easy! Quick Guide To Ant... 7. Podcast Episode 71: Pro Dog Trainer’s Secret to Help Your Naughty Dog - • Pro Dog Trainer’s Secret to Help Your Naug... 8. Podcast Episode 295: Fear Of Criticism? Why Facing The Camera Is The First Step To Becoming A Better Dog Trainer - • Fear Of Criticism? Why Facing The Camera I... 9. The American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior - https://avsab.org/ 10. The International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants - https://iaabc.org/ 11. Podcast Episode 297: Why In 2025 We Still Have Dog Trainers Who Believe “Reinforcement Dog Training Doesn’t Work” - • Why In 2025 We Still Have Dog Trainers Who... 12. Podcast Episode 290: The Red Flag Of Dominance Based Training: Why It’s Hurting Your Dog And What To Do Instead - • The Red Flag Of Dominance Based Training: ... 13. DogsThat YouTube Channel - / @dogsthat 14. DogsThat YouTube Playlists - / @dogsthat P.S. Subscribe to our YouTube Channel so you get notifications of new videos! - - - - - - Dogs That is brought to you by Susan Garrett and the Say Yes Dog Training Team. Susan Garrett’s interest in animal behaviour started at the University of Guelph where she earned a Bachelor of Science majoring in Animal Science. Since then she has developed into a preeminent dog trainer and canine sports instructor and competitor. Susan is one of the most successful agility competitors of the last three decades. She has won multiple Gold Medals at National or World Championship events with every dog she has ever owned over the past 30 years. A natural teacher and an entertaining speaker, Susan is world renowned as a leading educator of dog trainers. Her understanding of how to apply science-based learning principles to both competitive and family pet dog training has been pivotal in changing how dogs are trained. Susan is now helping many thousands of dog owners in 132 countries have the best relationship possible with their dogs. The real joy for her comes from bringing confidence to dogs and their owner through playful interactions and relationship building games that are grounded firmly in the science of how animals learn. - - - - - - Our Website: https://dogsthat.com Facebook: / susangarrettdogagility Instagram: / susangarrettdogsthat TikTok: / dogsthat LinkedIn: / dogsthat Pinterest: https://pinterest.ca/dogsthatcom/ Twitter: / susangarrett There’s always something new happening at Dogs That, so if you’d like to be the first to know, visit our website, register to receive updates, and we'll keep you in the loop. https://dogsthat.com