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Jeremy Hunt has insisted that “difficult decisions are needed to reform the welfare state”. The Chancellor is considering squeezing billions of pounds out of benefits ahead of his Autumn statement. Matthew Wright hears from Pimlico Plumbers founder Charlie Mullins and Deven Ghelani, one of the architects of the universal credit system. Matthew points to a Sunday Mirror front page suggesting that £100 billion has been wasted by the government in the last four years, and that should be prioritised in order to raise funds rather than another crackdown on benefits. Charlie Mullins, on the other hand, insists that a significant number of people are cheating the benefits system. Listen to the full show on Global Player: https://l-bc.co/ListenNow #matthewwright #ukpolitics #LBC LBC is the home of live debate around news and current affairs in the UK. Join in the conversation and listen at https://www.lbc.co.uk/ Sign up to LBC’s weekly newsletter here: https://l-bc.co/signup