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At 34 years old, Sall Grover thought she was creating a simple solution to a common problem. After years of sexual harassment as a screenwriter in Hollywood, she and her parents developed Giggle—a women-only app for roommates, freelance work, and lesbian dating. Using facial recognition technology, the app verified users were female before granting access. Apple and Google approved every build throughout 2019 without question. Then came February 7th, 2020, and Sall’s life became a legal nightmare that would span five years and counting. About Sall Sall Grover is an Australian businesswoman and former screenwriter who spent nearly a decade in Hollywood before returning home to Australia. Born in 1984, she channeled her traumatic experiences in the film industry into creating what she hoped would be a safe digital space for women. 🎧 Read the full show notes here: https://stellaomalley.substack.com/sa... 📌 CHAPTERS 00:00 – Trailer 01:02 – The absurd case: Tickle vs Giggle 06:15 – The toll on Sall’s health and anxiety from the court battle 09:42 – How the app for women was born 15:40 – The moment it all blew up 21:15 – Learning what “TERF” meant and finding the GC community 27:10 – The identity of "Roxy Tickle" and what led to the lawsuit 33:00 – Harassment, the phone call, and the legal complaint 39:42 – Courtroom insanity: the candle, the giggle, and $10,000 damages 45:08 – The appeal, the judiciary, and the battle over free speech 52:00 – Pregnancy protections for men and legal absurdities 57:14 – Breastfeeding men and simulated pregnancy 01:01:16 – Where the case stands now and how to support Sall 01:05:59 – Why Sall won’t back down 🛑 Disclaimer: This episode is for educational and informational purposes only. It does not constitute medical or psychological advice. 🎧 Listen & Subscribe: 🔹 YouTube | 🔹 Substack | 🔹 Spotify | 🔹 Apple Podcasts ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 💬 What did you think of this episode? Let us know in the comments! 🔔 Subscribe so you don’t miss what’s coming next! 📢 If this episode made you think, share it with a friend! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #SallGrover #BeyondGender #WomensRights #FreeSpeechMatters #SexNotGender