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In this raw and soul-expanding episode, I sit down with the radiant and heart centered Yummi Nguyen to explore the often-misunderstood space between spiritual growth and our very real human experience. Yummi shares her deeply personal story — including a moment of such darkness and despair that she nearly jumped in front of a train. Stuck in a marriage that wasn’t aligned and paralyzed by anxiety and depression, she eventually found her way back to her true nature. Through healing her mind and her heart, she reclaimed her true calling: helping others move from fear into love. We talk about: 💔 Why so many spiritual seekers bypass their humanity 🧘♀️ The difference between performing spirituality and actually embodying it 💡 Yummi’s practical approach to living from the heart (and what that really means) 💬 How to recognize when you’re numbing or spiritualizing your pain instead of healing it This is for anyone who’s ever felt like they’re “doing the work” but still feel disconnected or stuck. It’s a compassionate reminder that your humanity isn’t the problem — it’s the pathway. 🎧 Tune in now to experience Yummi’s medicine of love, presence, and truth. 🎙️ New episodes weekly 🩷 Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, review, and share if this hits home — Em Hollis 🔗 Let’s connect: IG → @emhollis_thesage Podcast IG → @themessytruthoftransformation Facebook → @emraehollis Tiktok → @emhollis_thesage Tags: spirituality, spiritual bypassing, heart-based living, feminine leadership, emotional healing, trauma healing, spiritual awakening, anxiety, depression, embodiment, Yummi Nguyen, Em Hollis, messy truth podcast, healing journey, self love, personal growth, emotional intelligence, shadow work, conscious relationships, fear to love Keywords: how to stop spiritual bypassing, embodied spirituality, healing from anxiety, overcoming depression, heart-centered living, spiritual growth vs escapism, feminine power, how to live from the heart, spiritual podcast, Em Hollis podcast