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“Bindu, Ardha-Bindu and Valaya are the three stages in which one has to pass through later on, and you would pass gradually when you develop yourself horizontally. That’s what we have started now, so let us keep to this idea that, we have to develop our self horizontally.” Excerpt from a talk by Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Place and Date: Burwood Ashram, Sydney (Australia) 1987 May 6th _________________________________ Yogini: The Sahasrara is represented by the lotus flower, at the moment, is the lotus flower starting to lose its petals and the fruit develop? [question is then repeated for Shri Mataji by another Yogi] Shri Mataji: You see, it is represented as lotus because our brain is like a lotus. Actually, if you cut it horizontally, you can see as if you have cut the petals, and if you cut it vertically you can see that, around the limbic area, it is just like petals of lotus. But when you are enlightened what happens, they swell up and they open out, and they all have beautiful colours. They look like tongues of flames, and it’s very beautiful. Now the Sahasrara is open and the lotus is open, and inside you find the fruit already there kept, which is the Agnya Chakra which you see is there. You can see it very clearly. Agnya is yellow, yellow-covered as we say, like a gold cap, is the Agnya there: beautiful Agnya is inside. Now the fruit of the lotus is later on we see, and I would say that is called as bindu state, where you become a bindu − a dot, it’s a little dot − and that dot has to then grow. So it’s the second stage starts when you become the fruit of the lotus. Yogi: Shri Mother, could You say something about those higher chakras above the Sahasrara? Shri Mataji: What chakra? Yogi: I’ve heard people talk about the Bindu and the Adhu-bindu, and the higher chakras above that… Shri Mataji: You see, I don’t think you should worry too much about these. There’s three stages higher than Sahasrara. I would suggest just now, let us concentrate on Sahasrara, is a better idea. But Bindu, Ardha-Bindu and Valaya are the three stages in which one has to pass through later on, and you would pass gradually when you develop yourself horizontally. That’s what we have started now, so let us keep to this idea that, we have to develop our self horizontally. We should see how we affect the other person, how we influence the another person. For example some people, you see, they are very egoistical and all that, they may come in contact with you and say, ‘Oh, very nice person, charming person, this, that.’ But actually that person is just very physically may be attractive, or may be a little brilliant type of a person, but doesn’t have anything much in it. But if that person standing next to you changes the mood and temperament of another person, then you can say that this person has a spiritual personality. So let us see how you affect the nature. Flowers − you saw the miracle of the flowers that I performed for you the other day. In the same way, let us see what is the effect of your character on the trees, on your friends, or in the food that you make − everything changes, it’s very beautiful. So we have to see that, how it works out. I have known people who have never known what is poetry is, suddenly they become poets. Some who were never musicians started singing so well. Like Christine, you know Christine, she never used to sing; she had a horrible voice. And suddenly she started singing like a cuckoo-bird! So not only you, but on others what effect is had? What others feel about you? You see, how you are kind, good and sweet to others, not superficially, but your behaviour should change another person, transform another person. Your presence should bring auspiciousness.