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In this episode of the HC Leadership Podcast, Jamie and Bob discuss their experiences and insights on leadership within the fire service. They emphasize the importance of understanding different perspectives across ranks, the evolution of leadership styles, and the critical role of communication in fostering effective leadership. The conversation highlights the need for leaders to empower their teams, measure their effectiveness through feedback, and maintain alignment between words and actions. Jamie and Bob also stress the significance of mentoring and supporting the next generation of leaders in the fire service. takeaways • Leadership is about understanding different perspectives across ranks. • Effective communication is crucial for successful leadership. • Leaders should empower their teams to make decisions. • Measuring leadership effectiveness is subjective and based on feelings. • Mentorship is essential for developing future leaders. • Leaders must be approachable and open to feedback. • Hard conversations are necessary for growth and understanding. • Actions must align with words to build trust. • Creating a culture of communication prevents misunderstandings. • Leadership styles have evolved to be more inclusive and supportive.