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Santiago might be the most overlooked city in the Dominican Republic… and after this conversation, I don’t think that’s going to last. In this episode of Grub with Gruber, I sat down with David Bermúdez at Camp David to understand what’s actually happening in Santiago—and why it could be one of the biggest growth stories in the country. 🔗 Want to go deeper? 👉 Join the DR Inner Circle (weekly live Q&A, expert calls, private group): https://jamiegruber.com 👉 Need a trusted lawyer, realtor, or mortgage broker in the DR? https://jamiegruber.com/referrals 👉 Learn more about Camp David (hotel, restaurant, and future development): https://campdavidranch.com 🎙️ This episode is sponsored by GoBundance If you’re a high-performing entrepreneur looking to level up your network, your mindset, and your life—GoBundance is one of the most powerful communities I’ve ever been a part of. This isn’t just about business—it’s about building a life you actually want to live. 👉 Learn more: https://gobundance.com 📊 What we cover: Why Santiago is quietly booming The real drivers of growth in the Dominican Republic How lifestyle arbitrage is pulling families back to DR The vision behind Camp David and its future development Infrastructure, energy, and the challenges that come with growth What most people are missing about Santiago ⚠️ Disclaimer This content is based on personal experience and opinion. I am not a lawyer, financial advisor, or real estate professional. Always do your own due diligence and consult with qualified professionals before making any investment or relocation decisions. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Santiago is positioned to thrive (cold open) 00:11 Intro to Camp David & David Bermúdez 02:00 The origin of Camp David (vision + name) 06:30 The 20-year land bet (no vacations, just buying land) 08:30 Why Santiago was always going to grow 10:00 Santiago is booming (what changed in 5 years) 12:00 Why people are moving back to Santiago 13:50 Cost of living vs the U.S. (real example) 15:00 First food reactions (Camp David experience) 17:00 His father’s story (ALS + sacrifice) 20:00 Legacy and honoring the vision 23:00 Family struggles, loss, and resilience 26:00 Addiction, parenting, and leadership 28:30 Dominican culture & generational patterns 30:30 His mother’s role in building Camp David 32:00 Building a premium hospitality experience 33:30 Scaling Camp David (events, demand, growth) 35:30 What Camp David means for Santiago’s future 36:10 The development vision (what’s coming next) 38:00 Why Santiago is unique in the Caribbean 39:50 Why Santiago is positioned to thrive 41:00 Real estate strategy & partnerships 42:20 The real driver of growth: alignment 43:30 Why DR has multiple economic engines 44:00 New investment coming to Santiago 45:00 Is the infrastructure ready for this growth? 46:00 Electricity challenges explained 47:30 Growth vs infrastructure (why outages happens) 49:00 Why he’s still bullish on the DR 50:30 Food segment (ravioli, risotto, reactions) 52:00 Growth comes with trade-offs (traffic, labor) 53:30 How big Santiago’s economy really is 55:00 Black swan risks (hurricanes, earthquakes) 56:30 Insurance culture in the DR (or lack of it) 58:00 Risk mitigation and protecting investment 1:00:00 Long-term outlook for Santiago 1:05:00 What could slow Dominican growth 1:10:00 Opportunities most people don’t see 1:15:00 Final thoughts on investing in Santiago 1:20:00 What outsiders misunderstand about DR 1:25:00 Lifestyle vs reality (pros and trade-offs) 1:30:00 Advice for people considering the move 1:35:00 Rapid fire / closing reflections 1:38:00 Final takeaway: why Santiago matters 1:40:00 Outro