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Featuring Nora Bateson, Maimunah Mosli, Jon Freeman and Mutations host Jeremy Johnson. I'm pleased to launch the first panel in an ongoing "Stages and Development" series exploring stage theory, Integral Theory, and developmental theories -- generally -- from critical and sidereal perspectives. This series was launched after Nora Bateson had published this (in hindsight) provocative Facebook post: "Stage theory... Is BS. Always was. And it is colonial as hell." That was the "whole tweet," as it were. Online responses were polarizing and illuminating. The original thread alone now has over 1000 comments. Many were thanking Nora for saying what she said, others were rushing to the defense of developmental theories (theories, largely drawing from Piaget and MHC - the Commons Model of Hierarchical Complexity - as their foundation, that propose human individuals go through distinct and measurable stages of maturation, and then later, adult development, and that these stages can then be applied collectively to human societies), which are something like a mainstay for integral and metamodern communities. The 'meta' communities, which even Mutations, and my own work and writing, are a part of, generally promote the return of big-picture, generalist thinking, i.e., meta theories, transdisciplinarity, etc., to help navigate the complexities of the planetary crisis (some of us even call it the 'meta-crisis'). Nora's original post and the subsequent conversations raise important questions - what, exactly, are we doing when we go 'meta'? Does 'meta' necessarily mean developmentalism? Are we carefully discerning the historical (eugenics, industrial capitalist) legacies, "ghosts" as Nora refers to, of modernity when we do so (some proponents might jump to say 'of course!' but please, let's take a closer look)? Are these theories worth the hazards they entail through their application to people? And finally, how do we ethically and effectively respond to the complexities of individual human beings, let alone entire human societies--in the context of the 'unthinkable' planetary present and its challenges? Nora Bateson joins us for this first panel with Maimunah Mosli, a Muslim family psychotherapist from Singapore who brings a much needed non-Western voice to this discussion, Jon Freeman, an author and Spiral Dynamics expert who is advocating for the usage of stage theory, and myself, attempting to hold the facilitator role as much as I plausibly can. NEXT PANELS: Hanzi Freinacht, the author of Nordic Ideology and the Listening Society, published their reply, and Nora and Hanzi (Daniel Gortz) have agreed to a conversation as a part of this panel series. We're scheduling a time for that conversation presently. In the meanwhile, we received a flood of invitations and panel guest recommendations. Too many for just one discussion. I hope other podcasters consider hosting their own. *** Original post by Nora: / 10159038460440860 Hanzi reply: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.ph... Article recommended by Nora: "The Place of eugenics in Arnold Gesell’s maturation theory of child development": https://indexarticles.com/health-fitn... PANELIST INFO: Nora Bateson's homepage: https://batesoninstitute.org/nora-bat... Maimunah Mosli: https://www.taosinstitute.net/about-u... Jon Freeman: http://spiralfutures.com/ & / freejonsop