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In this episode of The Stephan Hogan Podcast, VP of A&R at SMACKSongs, Lee Krabel reveals the truth about making it in the Nashville music industry. With nearly a decade of experience developing artists and songwriters, Lee shares how independent publishing companies compete with the majors, what makes a hit song stand out in a pile of 70 demos, and why hard work beats talent in country music every time. If you’ve ever wondered how to get signed in Nashville, what A&R really does, or how publishing deals and royalties actually work, this episode is a masterclass. Watch now to learn: • How A&R executives listen to songs and what separates good from unforgettable • The #1 trait Nashville artists need to survive: work ethic over talent • Independent vs. major publishing — which path is better for songwriters? • Why Nashville focuses on long-term artist development while LA chases virality • How TikTok and social media changed A&R and music discovery • The realities of publishing deals, songwriter draws, and catalog sales • The importance of music business literacy — lawyers, contracts, royalties, and taxes • How AI is impacting songwriting and demos (and why authenticity still wins) • Lee’s personal journey from Army service to Nashville A&R executive • Balancing career, family, and fatherhood in the high-pressure music industry • Insider advice for songwriters, artists, and independent musicians on breaking through Why listen? Whether you’re a country music fan, aspiring songwriter, independent artist, or music industry insider, this episode is packed with real talk, insider secrets, and actionable tips about succeeding in today’s music business. Lee breaks down complex industry terms — publishing, recoupment, royalties, catalog sales — in a way every songwriter and musician can understand. Get in touch in the comments or at: / stephanhogan / stephanhogan / stephanhogan Email: [email protected] Filmed in Nashville, TN Produced: Stephan Hogan Mavericks Media Co. Production