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In this eye-opening episode of Sustainable IT in Conversation, @Joost de Kluijver, founder of @Closing the Loop, cuts through the noise and reveals the real story behind e-waste in the Global South. While offshoring e-waste is still happening, the impact and the opportunities, together are more complex than most people realise. @Rod and Joost discuss the issue of who should be held accountable for this growing problem - Europe, the US or the IT industry as a whole? And more importantly, what can actually be done to shift the system towards a more sustainable future? Joost explains how Closing the Loop is taking a different approach, creating real opportunities on the ground while making sustainability not just an ethical choice but a commercially viable one. The conversation also dives into the state of sustainability in the IT supply chain today. Are we seeing real progress, or is it just more greenwashing? Joost shares how businesses can take real responsibility and why the right kind of clients can be game-changers for e-waste solutions. He also discusses whether the one-for-one model - where a new IT device purchase funds the recycling of an old one - could one day become a cost-neutral process and what changes need to happen in the industry to make that possible. If you care about tech, sustainability and the real impact of your IT choices, this episode is not to be missed. #SustainableIT #Podcast #Ewaste #ITindustry #Tech #CircularComputing #ClosingtheLoop