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Terry Kreuger joins the podcast to share his incredible 21-year journey in ministry. From planting his first church in a post-apartheid South Africa to moving to Los Angeles and taking over a church with a handful of people and hundreds of thousands in debt, Terry shares how he and his wife, Sandy, have always followed God's calling with a spirit of adventure and trust. Terry offers powerful, practical advice for those considering ministry, emphasizing the importance of training, unity, and stepping out in faith. Chapters 00:00:00 - A friendship forged through ministry 00:01:01 - Hearing God's call to plant a church 00:03:14 - Accountability in the early days 00:06:31 - Taking over a church with debt 00:09:41 - The first steps of church revitalization 00:11:50 - Ministry in Mexican prisons and rehabs 00:15:01 - Saying "yes" to church planting 00:16:54 - Key ingredients for church planters 00:22:21 - The heart of a church elder 00:26:03 - Unity on the eldership team