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Cross-Examination of Dr. James White (Dr. Oakley1689) by Greg Stafford

#GregStafford #DrJamesWhite #DrOakley1689 Here is the complete cross-examination of Dr. James White by Greg Stafford during their 2003 debate. There are many notable points from this exchange, not the least of which is Dr. White's views as expressed in this debate about "eternality" in John 1:1. Notice how from my question about THEOS as a count noun in John 1:1c at 1:46 to the end of Dr. White's answer at 2:41, Dr. White relies on an incorrect and assumed understanding of the context which to him reveals the Word "in eternity," even though it is explicitly "in the beginning"! Dr. White even uses HN ("was") to try and support his view, when all HN does is reveal when the Word "was," again, "in the beginning, which is not the same as "in eternity." "In the beginning" refers directly to Genesis 1:1 and the sequences of time involved with physical creation, during which times the "sons of God" were also present (Job 38:7). Were they "in eternity" as well? Of course not. But they were, like the Word, also "in the beginning." Further, in John 1:10 we read, ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ ἦν. Note the use of HN with a prepositional phrase ("in the world") just like in John 1:1. Does that mean the Word "was" eternally “in the world”? Again, of course not. Neither does HN mean the Word "was" eternally “in the beginning.” Both uses of HN in John Chapter 1, within a few verses of each other, and each with a prepositional phrase in the dative, simply describe the past, non-eternal existence in or at a location or time or both. Eternality has to be read into the text, which White and other Trinitarians regularly do, and which he does in this cross-examination, because otherwise he would have to admit THEOS in John 1:1c. is a count noun and so also "a god" in light of the non-eternal context where the Word is "with God," just like the other "sons of God" (Job 38:7). All of this is discussed in detail in my Jehovah's Witnesses Defended books, in the Chapters on John 1:1. To watch Greg Stafford's 2003 debate with Robert M. Bowman, Jr., see here:    • Is Jesus God? A Debate Between Greg Staffo...   To listen to Greg Stafford's 2006 radio debate with Dr. Robert Morey, see here:    • Dr. Robert Morey v. Greg Stafford: A 09/27...   To watch videos in "The Bible and the Trinity in Conflict" series, see here:    • The Bible and the Trinity in Conflict   To watch videos providing clear evidence from the Bible that Jesus is the "beginning of God's creation" (Revelation 3:14), and his real Firstborn Son (Colossians 1:15; Hebrews 1:6; compare Deuteronomy 21:17), see this playlist:    • “Begotten” or “Created”?  Part 7: Biblical...   CWJ Facebook page:   / cwjah   Order books and videos by Greg Stafford: http://www.elihubooks.com Articles by Greg Stafford on "Watching the Ministry" Blog: http://elihubooks.blogspot.com/ Follow Greg Stafford on Twitter:   / thegreatmessage   Christian Witnesses of Jah Discussion Forum: https://christianwjah.proboards.com