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Filmed On: 14th August 2025 Host: Sean Barber - / / seanrbarber - He & Him In this episode of Chat With Sean, I’m joined by the fantastic Dan Taylor - Partner & Head of Technical SEO at the international technical SEO agency SALT and a regular speaker at events like BrightonSEO and Google Search Central Live. Also, thanks to Dan for keeping the conversation going even with some tech hiccups along the way! We covered a wide range of topics, including: Why ROI and second-order effects are becoming the true measure of SEO success How AI Mode, Gemini, and LLMs are reshaping the funnel and attribution models The SEO vs GEO debate What the Chrome - Perplexity story could mean for Google, ads, and marketers Whether websites are still the digital “shopfront” - or evolving into something bigger The risks of outdated content in AI answers and how to audit for brand safety Why traditional technical SEO still matters - and where it must evolve next How to explain search changes to the C-suite Connect With Dan - / danielrwtaylor Watch / listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/episode/2n6R... ⏱️ Timestamps 0:00 – Intro & channel updates 2:20 – Guest introduction: Dan Taylor 3:03 – Biggest SEO challenge today: ROI & attribution 4:43 – Proving organic ROI in GA4 (multi-touch journeys) 7:00 – Spotlight on SEO: why the industry is in focus 9:46 – SEO vs GEO: making sense of the debate 14:19 – Next phase of information consumption (multimodal search, Lens, TikTok) 16:38 – SEO jobs & the AI disruption 18:19 – Content evolution: SEO, AI visibility & LLM training sets 20:41 – AI race & tooling gaps (Perplexity, Chrome, Gemini) 41:33 – Future of the internet & websites – dying or evolving? 1:00:55 – Technical SEO in the AI era (schema, JS, AI crawlers) 1:07:02 – Securing C-Suite buy-in for SEO & AI strategy 1:12:58 – Closing thoughts & wrap up Related Links - https://www.chris-green.net/post/mill... Deep Dive into LLMs like ChatGPT - • Deep Dive into LLMs like ChatGPT Get curated digital marketing news and essential channel updates sent directly to you via Whatsapp - https://www.whatsapp.com/channel/0029...