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Dart, Flutter, and WasmGC with Ömer Ağacan and Martin Kustermann

In this episode of WasmAssembly, your host Thomas Steiner is joined by Ömer Ağacan and Martin Kustermann from the Dart team at Google. They explore Dart, the language behind Flutter, and how Dart nearly landed in V8 alongside JavaScript, and why Flutter doubled down on Dart and WebAssembly Garbage Collection (WasmGC). Ömer and Martin then share insights on Dart’s performance leap from dart2js to dart2wasm, its potential beyond the browser, and what the WasmGC transition means for developers and the broader ecosystem. Finally, they look at Jaspr, Dart-only web apps, and how different browsers are handling WasmGC. This episode again is packed with sharp technical detail and bold visions for the future of WebAssembly. Chapters: 0:00 - Introducing Ömer and Martin from the Dart team 0:38 - What even is Dart? 3:58 - How V8 almost supported JavaScript and Dart 7:34 - What is Flutter, and why did they choose Dart? 10:21 - Flutter’s three Google I/O moments: Accessibility, hot reloading, and WasmGC 12:37 - Why Flutter bet on WasmGC 16:54 - Were Flutter people part of the WasmGC proposal? 17:37 - How the Flutter and the Dart team collaborate at Google 19:48 - WasmGC explained 23:10 - WasmGC outside of the browser without the JS engineer’s garbage collector 24:01 - Performance impact of switching from dart2js to dart2wasm 26:11 - Web apps with pure Dart 28:48 - Reasons for choosing Dart for Web programming 36:14 - Size differences between Dart compiled to JS vs. Wasm 38:55 - Web apps with Jaspr 41:13 - Dart compiled to WasmGC on non-browser engines 43:01 - WasmGC in the various browsers 46:44 - WasmGC, ready for business adaptation? 48:57 - Concrete problems in different browsers 52:30 - WasmGC in browser benchmarks 54:06 - Ömer’s and Martin’s wishes for the Wasm ecosystem 1:00:00 - Wasm, but not 1:03:26 - How to reach Ömer and Martin Resources: Dart → https://goo.gle/4kfijgD Flutter → https://goo.gle/4kh4jDi Before Flutter | Rubber Duck Engineering | Episode #100 → https://goo.gle/4nujV9g State of Developer Ecosystem Report → https://goo.gle/4lrmya6 What's new in Flutter → https://goo.gle/44xx0Gl Dart & Flutter momentum at Google I/O 2025 → https://goo.gle/3TgUr1p Accessibility in Flutter on the Web → https://goo.gle/4l2xfQB Stateful hot reload in DartPad → https://goo.gle/4nokFg1 WebAssembly (Wasm) compilation → https://goo.gle/3I8Ngpx Support for WebAssembly (Wasm) → https://goo.gle/45L0wdR WebAssembly Garbage Collection (WasmGC) now enabled by default in Chrome → https://goo.gle/3G7qLAS Wasm-feature-detect library → https://goo.gle/4evqS5Y A new way to bring garbage collected programming languages efficiently to WebAssembly → https://goo.gle/4keW0rt [dart2wasm] Support non-JS wasm runtimes → https://goo.gle/44wr3t3 Safari bug: Umbrella: Using Canvas image sources between different canvases and canvas types is slow → https://goo.gle/3TmuSvM Firefox bug: OffscreenCanvas.transferToImageBitmap incurs a copy → https://goo.gle/3GoIGD2 Ömer Ağacan on LinkedIn → https://goo.gle/4lA6fYB Martin Kustermann on LinkedIn → https://goo.gle/3TffQbc Watch more WasmAssembly → https://goo.gle/WasmAssembly Subscribe to Chrome for Developers → https://goo.gle/ChromeDevs #WebAssembly #Wasm #WasmGC #Flutter #Dart #Dart2JS #Dart2Wasm #Dart2WasmGC #ChromeForDevelopers #Chrome Speaker: Thomas Steiner Products Mentioned: Web Assembly (Wasm), Chrome, WebAssembly for Chrome