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Democrats need to defend democracy without undermining it—but how? John Ganz, author of When the Clock Broke and the "Unpopular Front” substack, joins Offline to interrogate why Democrats have ceded nostalgia about the past to Republicans, how they should be resisting the America's autocratic slide, and what it says about our political moment that his “Trump is dead” tweet went viral. John and Jon discuss the pros and cons of using historical frameworks like fascism to understand contemporary American politics, how the seed of Trumpism was planted in the early 1990s, and whether Democratic leaders are falling short on rhetoric. CHECK OUT THESE DEALS FROM OUR SPONSORS CIVITECH: https://www.civitech.io/offline HIYA: https://www.hiyahealth.com/OFF DELETEME: Text OFFLINE to 64000. Message & data rates may apply. ZBIOTICS: https://www.zbiotics.com/OFFLINE CODE: OFFLINE CHAPTERS 0:00 - Intro 0:31 - Charlie Kirk 2:04 - John on his "Trump is Dead" tweet 7:03 - Testing the Fascism thesis 18:55 - Ad break 21:41 - History of Authoritarianism & violence 36:11 - Trump's fascism 42:34 - Ad break 45:56 - How to fight fascism? Get tickets to CROOKED CON November 6-7 in Washington, D.C at crookedcon.com Is the internet slowly breaking our brains, and if so, what can we do about it? Offline with Jon Favreau is a place where you can take a break from doom-scrolling and tune in to smarter, lighter conversations about the impact of technology & the internet on our collective culture. Intimate interviews between Pod Save America host Jon Favreau and notable guests like Stephen Colbert, Hasan Piker, ContraPoints, Margaret Atwood, and Megan Rapinoe spark curiosity and introspection around the various ways our extremely online existence shapes everything from the ways we live, work, and interact with one another. Together we’ll figure out how to live happier, healthier lives, both on and offline. Photos courtesy of AP Photo Archive Crooked Media believes that we need a better conversation about politics, culture, and the world around us—one that doesn’t just focus on what’s broken, but what we can do to fix it. We are a media network that showcases stories, voices, and opportunities for activism that inform, entertain, and inspire action, because it’s up to all of us to do our part to build a better world. That’s it. End of mission. Learn more about us at crooked.com