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A lot of people talk about “submission” like it’s control, silence, or hierarchy. This conversation clears it up with Bible, wisdom, and real-life counsel. Pastor Michael Willard joins Pastor James and Pastor Tiffaney for a needed talk on biblical leadership in love, what submission actually means, why courtship should reveal seasons, and how to think about divorce with wisdom and boundaries, not pressure and fear. If you’re dating, engaged, married, rebuilding trust, or trying to grow spiritually with a spouse who isn’t, this episode will help you get language, alignment, and next steps. In this episode: Why “whoever trusts the least will want to control the most” What submission means biblically Courtship and “seasons” that expose character and red flags “Take divorce off the table” vs situations where separation or divorce is necessary How a husband is called to cover, nurture, cherish, and be accountable before God Dating vs marriage rules: stop cross-pollinating covenant expectations Like, comment, subscribe, and share with someone who needs this. Available now on all podcast platforms.