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How has the movement toward spend out philanthropy impacted the organizations that receive funding? In Episode 4 of our Make Shift Happen conversation series, Mia Reilly, Director of Engagement Strategy at Tara Health Foundation (https://www.tarahealthfoundation.org), sits down with Mariko Miki, Co-Executive Director of If/When/How (https://ifwhenhow.org), a national nonprofit that provides legal help to people facing criminalization for pregnancy, abortion, or birth. In this revealing exchange, Mariko shares If/When/How’s experience navigating a wave of funder spend outs, along with the challenges and opportunities presented by this sea change in philanthropy. She also discusses the infrastructure investment that If/When/How and similar organizations need from funders, in order to do their work sustainably and grow beyond reliance on a shifting philanthropic ecosystem. Subscribe to our channel to watch the series as it evolves. Subscribe to our newsletter for updates when new videos release → https://www.tarahealthfoundation.org/... Join the conversation: reach out & connect with us → / tara-health-foundation Featured in this video, in order of appearance: Mia Reilly, Director of Engagement Strategy, Tara Health Foundation (https://www.tarahealthfoundation.org), & Mariko Miki, Co-Executive Director, If/When/How (https://ifwhenhow.org) Chapters: 0:00 Intro 0:36 Who is If/When/How? 2:20 What is it like facing a wave of funder spend outs? 5:21 What support is needed for sustainability? 7:59 What do you need from funders right now? 10:50 Outro