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Adrianne Marsh (Altum Insight (https://www.altum-insight.com/) ) joins the show to unpack lessons from presidential-era campaigning, why Barack Obama 2008 was a once-in-a-generation “unicorn,” and what his team’s qualitative research is revealing right now: in rural communities, AI is landing as a major trust threat — tied to privacy, kids’ futures, community values, and a broader sense of being talked down to rather than listened to. We also get into: 1. Accountability systems that actually work (even down to volunteers) 2. Why authenticity and message discipline scale 3. How corporate research builds narratives that move behavior (and why politics often doesn’t) 4. The “ballot initiative paradox”: progressive issues pass… until there’s a party label attached 5. Why rebuilding trust starts with listening, not persuasion If you enjoy this episode, please leave it a 5-star review. This helps the podcast to grow because it primes the algorithm. Many thanks to you in advance!