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Welcome to The State of Craft, a podcast focused on Canadian cannabis policy reform. In our fourth season, our discussions are based on our white paper—The Dire State of Craft Cannabis in Canada—which you can read here: https://certicraft.com/learn/cannabis... For our third episode of the season, we welcome three incredible guests. Two of them are literal legends of Canadian cannabis history without whom cannabis is unlikely to be legal today: Hilary Black and Ted Smith, the founders of the first two medical cannabis dispensaries/compassion clubs in Canada. Our third guest is pharmacist Trevor Shewfelt, who was shocked to discover that he couldn't provide patients of his that needed cannabis with that medicine, despite being able to easily prescribe drugs like fentanyl. 0:00 - Intro to The State of Craft 4:18 - A Different Take on Land Acknowledgements 9:05 - Hilary Black's Intro 13:34 - Ted Smith's Intro 16:45 - Trevor Shewfelt's Intro 20:53 - An update on the VCBC's Legal Battles 29:47 - Medical Patients' needs are unmet 35:21 - Hilary Black: "I'm not hopeful about compassion clubs in Canada" 38:53 - Hilary Black's Fundamental Issue with the Cannabis Act 49:08 - Ted Smith Agrees; Cannabis legalized for control only. 52:03 - Cannabis can't be medicine in Canadian Healthcare 58:26 - Ted's Desire to bring pharmacists to compassion clubs 1:06:49 - Cannabis use reduces lethal overdoses by 50% 1:12:43 - Ted: could compassion clubs make a comeback? 1:15:45 - Trevor: can you see cannabis entering pharmacies? 1:24:08 - Paraphrased Perspectives 1:27:42 - Compassion Clubs and Pharmacies side by side? 1:30:00 - With a magic wand, what is the one thing you change?