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GMM by @SwimOutletGear @SwimOutletTV Kyle Sockwell has long branded himself as the “CEO of Fun,” but anyone who has worked with him behind the scenes knows that label only tells half the story. Sockwell, now the COO of the newly announced College Swimming League (CSL), has built a reputation in aquatic sports for something that’s surprisingly rare in this industry: clarity. Behind the scenes, he’s direct about what he knows and what he doesn’t. Clear about what’s possible and what isn’t. And refreshingly uninterested in spin or “gotcha” communication. That matters when the topic is a massive structural shifts in college swimming. The CSL announcement dropped December 9th and immediately became one of the most discussed developments in our sport. The league named former International Swimming League (ISL) Toronto Titans GM Rob Kent as CEO, with Sockwell operating alongside him as COO. In this GMM podcast, we briefly cover Kyle's start and evolution in sports media, and then we dig into the details surrounding CSL --The CSCAA and Executive Director Samantha Barany? Were they involved in CSL’s formation or caught off guard? --How does CSL fits into a landscape where the International Swimming League is also reportedly planning a relaunch after a four-year hiatus? --Is ISL controlling the College Swimming League? --Will ISL’s legacy hurt CSL? --Can you preview the 12 universities participating yet? --What is the CSL business model, the committed Capital from ISL, and how will stakeholders - the swimmers, coaches, colleges - benefit financially or otherwise? ---What does it actually means for universities to be “founding members?” --The CSL has said matches will count as NCAA dual meets, times will qualify swimmers for championships, and formats like skins and super skins are designed to improve broadcast appeal. But how does that translate into financial benefit for programs and athletes? We cover the above and a lot more, like the crowed fall 2026 schedule with World Cup, ISL, and USA Swimming saying they will be launching a SCM World Champ Trials meet. How will the CSL manage that schedule? The podcast is just under 90 minutes, and Kyle does not have all of the answers. CSL is a startup, moving fast, and still in development, but I trust that Kyle will came back and unpack more as decisions are finalised. Many thanks to @SwimOutletTV for supporting the GMM podcast for 14 years. Swimming news courtesy of SwimSwam.com (https://swimswam.com) Click here to listen and subscribe on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/3UGrNWo... Click here to listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Click here to listen and subscribe on Podbean https://swimswam.podbean.com/ Click here to listen and subscribe on Google https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR... Follow SwimSwam on: Facebook: / swimswamnews Twitter: / swimswamnews Instagram: / swimswamnews This is a Gold Medal Media production presented by SwimOutlet.com. Host Gold Medal Mel Stewart is a 3-time Olympic medalist and the co-founder of SwimSwam.com, a Swimming News website. Opinions, beliefs and viewpoints of the interviewed guests do not necessarily reflect the opinions, beliefs, and viewpoints of the hosts, SwimSwam Partners, LLC and/or SwimSwam advertising partners.