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In this conversation, Jacob Hansen and Hayden Carroll delve into the complex issue of animal suffering within the context of Latter-day Saint theology. They explore the philosophical implications of suffering, the nature of God, and how these concepts relate to the problem of evil. The discussion highlights the differences between mainstream Christian views and Latter-day Saint perspectives, particularly regarding consent and the nature of creation. Ultimately, they seek to understand how animal suffering fits into a broader theological framework and what it means for the nature of God and His relationship with creation. In this conversation, Hayden Carroll and Jacob Hansen explore profound philosophical and theological concepts, including the nature of existence, the necessity of opposites, the act of creation, and the nature of God. They discuss the implications of these ideas on the understanding of the afterlife, consciousness, and the problem of evil, particularly from a Latter-day Saint perspective. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of distinctions in understanding reality and the divine. In this conversation, Hayden Carroll and Jacob Hansen delve into profound philosophical questions surrounding suffering, consciousness, and the existence of God. They explore the implications of suffering in relation to theistic beliefs, the nature of consciousness, and how these concepts intersect with Latter-day Saint teachings. The discussion culminates in a logical argument positing that suffering may actually support the existence of God, rather than undermine it. Chapters 00:00 Exploring the Problem of Animal Suffering 12:01 The Nature of God and Human Suffering 24:00 The Latter-day Saint Perspective on Suffering 31:59 Animal Suffering in Latter-day Saint Theology 35:20 The Realm of Possibility 36:00 Conceptualizing the Afterlife 37:03 Opposition and Experience 38:05 The Necessity of Opposites 38:55 Creation and Distinction 41:01 The Nature of Reality 43:08 Consciousness and Existence 44:59 God and Creation 46:07 The Nature of God 50:05 The Problem of Evil 51:49 The Latter-day Saint Perspective 53:58 Defining God 56:03 The Nature of Divinity 01:06:05 The Problem of Suffering and God 01:11:56 Consciousness: A Philosophical Inquiry 01:20:03 The Nature of Consciousness and Its Implications 01:27:04 Suffering and the Existence of God 01:31:00 Closing Thoughts and Future Projects Takeaways The problem of animal suffering raises significant theological questions. Mainstream Christianity often struggles to justify animal suffering. Latter-day Saint theology offers a unique perspective on suffering. Consent plays a crucial role in understanding suffering in this life. God's nature is constrained by eternal laws, not arbitrary limitations. Animal suffering can be viewed through the lens of a consensual existence. Creation ex nihilo presents challenges for traditional views of God. The concept of gratuitous suffering is central to the problem of evil. Understanding God's nature requires a departure from Greek philosophical frameworks. The relationship between God and creation is complex and multifaceted. There is a realm where anything can happen. Animals experience a journey similar to humans. Opposition is necessary for understanding existence. Creation involves the act of distinguishing. Reality is understood through contrasts. God's creation is about organizing and distinguishing. The nature of God is a complex philosophical question. Divinity aligns with eternal laws for the highest good. The problem of evil challenges traditional views of God. Understanding God requires clarity in definitions. Unjustified suffering challenges the existence of an all-good God. Keywords animal suffering, problem of evil, Latter-day Saint theology, God, suffering, Christian God, unjust suffering, creation ex nihilo, consent, eternal law, afterlife, creation, opposites, consciousness, God, existence, reality, Latter-day Saint, philosophy, theology, suffering, consciousness, existence of God, atheism, theism, philosophical inquiry, animal suffering, LDS beliefs, agency, spiritual growth Our Links Website: http://thoughtfulfaith.org Instagram: / thoughtful.faith TikTok: / thoughtful.faith Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1478749 DISCLAIMER: The views expressed in this video are entirely the opinion of the creator and do not necessarily reflect any officially endorsed positions of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints or channel sponsors.