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Welcome to Part 2 of the Tech Leadership Podcast with Arun Kumar K and guest Ambran Abu Bakar. In this episode, Ambran shares powerful real-world consulting experiences from handling toxic clients and project bullying, to why he walked away from a $10 million project despite the money. This conversation goes deep into leadership, trust, smart cities, AI adoption, and the mindset shift from engineering execution to business outcomes. In this episode (Part 2), you’ll learn: Respect and leadership in consulting (real client story) Why did Ambran walk away from a 10M dollar project “Make money happily” mindset Smart City vs Digital City (simple breakdown) Human-centric transformation and adoption challenges AI impact on creativity and future cities in 10 years Rapid-fire leadership insights If you’re a consultant, founder, tech leader, or someone working in digital transformation, this episode is packed with practical lessons. TIMESTAMPS (Part 2) 00:00 – Respect in consulting (standing up for your team) 01:40 – Client bullying story and pulling out from the project 03:15 – Why he walked away from a 10M dollar project 04:10 – “Make money happily” (key mindset) 05:00 – Why Smart City, AV, and AI are combined in one business 06:45 – AI adoption journey before ChatGPT (early advantage) 08:10 – Technology is an enabler, not a hurdle 09:20 – Business mindset vs engineer mindset (outcome over process) 10:40 – Helping people become “one-man unicorns.” 12:00 – AI impact on music and creative industries 13:40 – Artists should ride the AI wave (not fight it) 15:00 – What board members should ask but don’t 16:40 – Leadership means letting go and making space for young voices 18:40 – Delegation: the real leadership unlock 20:10 – Smart City vs Digital City explained 22:20 – Smart city means safety, livability, and citizen experience 24:00 – Human-centric smart city approach 25:30 – Adoption is the biggest challenge in transformation 27:00 – Managing stakeholders (young vs old school users) 29:10 – Consulting skill: balance, politics, and communication 31:00 – Proactive support builds customer trust 32:20 – Why technical founders and CEOs win 33:30 – Technical sales is the best sales (no overpromising) 35:30 – Future of cities and AI in 10 years 37:10 – AI is the co-pilot, humans are the pilots 38:30 – Rapid-fire round: leadership principle, misunderstood tech 40:00 – Best CEO advice: digital transformation is not technology 42:00 – Closing thoughts and episode wrap This is a powerful conversation about ethical leadership, building trust, and using technology as an enabler, not a hurdle. Watch This: What Makes a City Truly Smart? | Ambran Abu Bakar | Tech Leadership Club (Part 1): • What Makes a City Truly Smart? | Ambran Ab... Guest – Ambran Abu Bakar Group Chairman and Founder of SCAVAI Alliance Pte Ltd Senior technology and urban transformation leader with over 20+ years of experience across smart cities, AI, digital transformation, and large-scale infrastructure projects. LinkedIn Profile: / dato%e2%80%99-ambran-abu-bakar-8649679 Host – Arun Kumar Krishna Founder, AS13.ai | Managed IT & Cybersecurity for Modern Enterprises Capturing insights from technology builders and sharing them with the next generation of founders and teams. LinkedIn Profile: / 1arun1 🎧 If you found this episode valuable, subscribe for more real conversations with technology leaders inside Tech Leadership Club. #TechLeadership #Podcast #Leadership #Consulting #AI #SmartCity #DigitalTransformation #BusinessMindset #Entrepreneurship #CustomerTrust #Innovation #FutureOfWork #TechStrategy #TechPodcast #TechLeadershipClub