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In this exclusive 90-minute deep-dive, Ankit sits down with Michael Sutton, Co-Author of vProgs, for the most comprehensive explanation of vProgs (Verifiable Programs) to date. This is the conversation that will define how we think about blockchain scalability, liquidity fragmentation, and the future of decentralized applications. This isn't just another crypto interview - it's a masterclass in next-generation blockchain architecture. vProgs represent Kaspa's answer to what many consider blockchain's greatest unsolved problem: the fragmentation crisis plaguing Ethereum's L2 ecosystem. While Ethereum's rollups trap developers and users in isolated silos (Base, Arbitrum, Optimism), vProgs create a unified, one-dimensional space where programs can synchronously compose while maintaining sovereignty. Michael breaks down complex concepts like based rollups, canonical ordering, computational DAGs, and synchronous composability into understandable explanations. Whether you're a developer evaluating blockchain platforms, a researcher studying L2 solutions, or an investor trying to understand Kaspa's technological edge, this episode provides the clarity you need. What makes vProgs revolutionary? Unlike traditional L2s that require trust assumptions and complex bridging, vProgs inherit L1 security directly, eliminate censorship risks, and create true unified liquidity through atomic composability. The experience? As Michael explains, it should feel "as if programs are on L1" despite executing off-chain with ZK proof verification. TOPICS DISCUSSED: • vProgs Fundamentals - What they are and why they're called "verifiable programs" instead of smart contracts • Single Sequencer Architecture - How Kaspa L1 enables synchronous composability that fragmented L2s cannot achieve • Based Rollups Superiority - Why having all roles on L1 eliminates trust assumptions and inherits full security • Ethereum's Fragmentation Problem - The "failure supernova" that inspired Kaspa to design differently from day one • One vs Two-Dimensional Liquidity - Why current L2s trap users in bundles and how vProgs solve this• Unified Liquidity & Asset Hubs - Creating a single liquidity space without bridges or fragmentation • L1 Experience on L2 - How atomic composability makes off-chain execution feel native• Multiple VM Support - Supporting different virtual machines (Solana-style, EVM-adapted) as templates • Validity Proofs vs Zero-Knowledge - Clarifying the cryptographic architecture behind vProgs • Sovereignty + Composability - Balancing program independence with seamless communication • Computational DAG - The breakthrough that made the entire vision click into place • Development Journey - Behind the scenes of six months building prototypes before the "aha moment" Subscribe for More: / @xximpod ______________________ Supporters of XXIM: IGRA LABS - https://igralabs.com/hero KASPA FINANCE - https://kaspafinance.io/ This video is for educational purposes only and not financial advice. Always conduct your own research before engaging with blockchain projects or investments. We do not discuss or recommend anyone should buy or sell Crypto or any project / blockchain / Crypto we discuss. #vProgs, #kaspa #kaspacurrency #kaspaupdate #kaspatoken #KaspaCoin #kaspaupdates #BlockDAG #KaspaCommunity #GHOSTDAG