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Billy Oppenheimer (https://billyoppenheimer.com/, https://x.com/bpoppenheimer) is a researcher and writer who works closely with Ryan Holiday (https://ryanholiday.net/) and Rick Rubin (https://x.com/rickrubin), and publishes the “Six at 6” newsletter (https://billyoppenheimer.com/newsletter). Billy is also working on his first book, The Work is the Win. We kick off by discussing one of my favorite new ideas: "*looking for clues*," a process and philosophy for creativity that Billy learned from Rick Rubin. He shares the story Rick told him when he learned and adopted this language, which is so representative of how Billy (and I!) research in our work. From there, we talk about Billy's robust research process and how he has created an external brain of the ideas and patterns that inspire him rather than relying on memory. We also talk about the importance of time as a filter and a series of maxims that underpin his work and creativity. We discuss the importance of inputs over outputs and his big idea and book title, "The Work is the Win," as well many related ideas on success, complacency, compounding, standards, initiative, local maximums, and more. We finish with some lessons from Billy's favorite people. This conversation is a field guide for making things, pushing through the messiness of progress, and attuning yourself to the richness of the world that often takes the shape of clues. Full transcript and all references linked: https://dialectic.fm/billy-oppenheimer 00:00 Intro 01:20 Looking for Clues with Rick Rubin 17:42 - Billy's Own Clue-Seeking 24:26 Balancing Listening to the Market and Finding Unique Influences 31:17 Memory, Notecards, and Billy's External Brain 37:13 Making Notes for an Ignorant Stranger, or Leaving Clues for Your Future Self 45:08 Lingering and Time as a Filter 52:51 Billy's Book and Big Idea: "The Work is the Win" 01:00:06 Be Great Regardless 01:04:31 Following Up Even When Your Abilities and Standards Don't Match 01:10:10 Fending Off the Wolf at the Door (The Comfort of Success) 01:15:55 Unfolding and Planting Seeds 01:18:17 Taking Initiative and Opening Doors: "He Who Hesitates is Lost" 01:24:58 Stupid Bravery and Getting Past the Sewage 01:30:16 Local Maximums and Resisting Personal "Folklore" 01:36:14 Some of Billy's Favorites: Ryan Holiday, Rick Rubin, Steve Jobs, John Mayer, Greta Gerwig, Jerry Seinfeld, Ralph Waldo Emerson 01:56:45 Side Quests 02:02:26 "I Know What We Do Here" and Creative Environments 02:05:28 Bringing Familiar and Unfamiliar Together 02:09:26 Mastery and Compounding 02:12:44 The Real Life of Appearances 02:15:43 "Ton-goo-ey" and The Gifts We Give Ourselves Dialectic with Jackson Dahl is available on all podcast platforms. Join the telegram channel for Dialectic: https://t.me/dialecticpod Twitter / X: https://x.com/dialecticpod Instagram: / dialecticpod Spotify: https://spoti.fi/40Po3pM Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4hpS4U7