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Lane chats with Dev Agrawal— content creator & Developer Advocate at Clerk! Tune in as they discuss DevRel, authentication vs. authorization, JWT, and so much more in this episode. Learn back-end development - https://boot.dev Listen on your favorite podcast player: https://www.backendbanter.fm Dev's Twitter: / devagrawal09 Dev's Youtube: / @devagr Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 00:50 Is Dev's name really Dev? 02:10 What is it about writing code that scares Dev? 02:50 JavaScript is one of the worst with dependencies 03:09 Dev's ideal world 03:20 .NET and Blazor 03:59 Blazor explained 04:36 WASM on the Front-end 05:04 Is Blazor unique to C# ? 06:11 What is a DevRel? 08:07 Lane's experience 09:13 You shouldn't roll your own Auth 11:59 Undifferentiated work 13:56 Authentication vs Authorization 16:19 Regarding Auth, which is a bigger pain point for companies 16:48 Pain points of Authorization 18:38 Pain Points of Authentication 20:23 Lane's perspective 22:29 Using a third party for authorization 24:27 Is Clerk used for both Authentication and Authorization? 26:16 JWT explained 28:39 Where is the users' data stored? 29:27 Features are developed as needed 29:52 Auth coupling to the rest of the system 30:16 Webhooks listeners to access user session data 31:03 Postgres foreign-data wrapper 32:09 Microservices sharing databases 34:29 CQRS 37:37 Average size of a company that uses Clerk 40:50 What are the most used ways to sign-in 42:04 Stances on passwords 46:56 OAuth 50:33 Why Lane dropped Sign-in with Twitter/X 51:14 What do popular services usually use? 52:24 Sign-in with Google 57:39 Unpopular opinion on Auth related web architecture 01:00:17 2 ways of doing authentication 01:05:59 Where to find Dev Like & subscribe for the algo if you enjoyed the video!