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Join us as we kickstart season 6 from our fresh new studio, where we're joined by a titan of the cybersecurity world - Johnathan Kuskos. This episode dives headfirst into the depths of technical intricacies, promising a thrilling and enlightening journey for the intrepid listener. Buckle up as we explore the intricate dance between whitebox and blackbox testing, unravel the characteristics that mold an exceptional hacker, and shed light on the reality behind security charlatans and the dynamics of security leadership. Our discussion ventures into realms that might seem nebulous to the uninitiated, but it offers an unprecedented opportunity for those seeking to understand the language of hackers. Every minute of this episode is imbued with insights gleaned from the cutting edge of cybersecurity. If you've ever wondered how the best minds in hacking communicate or sought to unravel the complex tapestry of InfoSec, this conversation with Johnathan Kuskos is your window into that world. 0:00 Intro 3:37 Kuskos' background 9:24 Managing a hacker army 10:47 The feeling of hacking and economics 16:03 Ethics in security reports 19:21 Training and hiring hackers 29:01 Caveating tests and the process of hacking 35:26 Starting a consultancy and types of hackers 53:58 What makes a good hacker 1:04:01 Coding evolution to be secure, AI and ChatGPT 1:12:39 Pressing the wrong button vs automation 1:13:56 Breaking the Hollywood stereotype of hackers 1:24:29 Second factor as a weapon 1:25:25 CSRF web hacks and old vs new web apps 1:29:27 Red vs blue team 1:40:41 Economics of fixing vulns 1:45:29 Reporting structure of CISOs 1:48:52 Whitebox vs Blackbox testing 1:52:41 Testing without staging and deeply testing 1:59:19 API security 2:01:53 Getting caught, evading detection 2:06:26 Attacking known assets, WAFs 2:10:30 Security talent and the next generation 2:22:52 Security charlatans and conferences 2:36:51 Security leadership vs management 2:41:33 Mentorship in infosec and scaling 2:55:35 Outro FOLLOW US ON: Website: https://www.rsnake.com Facebook: / thersnakeshow Twitter: / thersnakeshow Instagram: / thersnakeshow Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4wHHBk8... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast... YouTube: / @thersnakeshow