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After the first part, Michael and Alex continue their conversation with the one and only Evan You, covering the future of the modern JavaScript Framework. Starting straight with possible plans for Vue 4 to address common pain points and no ETA for the next major, exciting improvements like native CSS Scoping or removing the need for declaring props are discussed (though nothing is set on stone)! Next, Vue 3.5 and it's current alpha version are on the list. We all look forward to the amazing features in the next minor version, including Lazy Hydration, perf improvements, easier types and also new composables like useTemplateRef. Eventually, the State of Suspense, Vapor Mode, Volar, and Mobile App Development with Vue are addressed as well. Enjoy the episode! --- Our Guest Evan You Web - https://evanyou.me/ Vue.js - https://vuejs.org/ Vite - https://vitejs.dev/ Rolldown - https://rolldown.rs/ --- Your Hosts Michael Thiessen Twitter - / michaelthiessen YouTube - @michaelnthiessen Web - https://michaelnthiessen.com/ Alexander Lichter YouTube - @TheAlexLichter Twitter - / thealexlichter Web - https://www.lichter.io/ -- Chaptermarks: 00:00 Welcome to DejaVue! 01:06 Do you have any plans for Vue 4? 02:47 Ref Unwrapping in objects 05:22 Native CSS Scoping, Signals and Browser range 07:12 Defaulting to script setup and TypeScript 11:12 No prop declaring necessary anymore 13:43 Nothing set in stone for Vue 4 14:50 Vue 3.5 improvements 15:50 Internal type improvements 16:33 Reactive Props Destructure RFC 19:31: useId and useTemplateRef 21:00 Do we still need custom directives? 22:06 Lazy Hydration 22:57 Allowing Hydration mismatches on purpose 25:10 Custom Lazy Hydration Triggers 26:18 Vue 3.5 Alpha 26:56 State of Suspense 30:17 Vapor Mode 33:44 Performance of Vapor 35:31 Volar and the Vue VS Code Extension 39:09 Negativity towards Volar 40:18 Mobile App Development with Vue 42:51 What content would help the Vue community? 51:07 Wrapping up! -- Links and Resources ▶ 10% discount for the vue.js de Conf in Bonn, Germany with code DEJAVUE https://conf.vuejs.de/ ▶ Nuxt UI Pro - Get 20% off with code LICHTER until July 14th using the link https://dejavue.fm/nuxt-ui ▶ Reactive Props Destructure RFC https://github.com/vuejs/rfcs/discuss... ▶ Volar https://github.com/volarjs/volar.js/ ▶ Vue Language Tools - https://github.com/vuejs/language-tools ▶ Nuxt https://nuxt.com/ ▶ JS Framework Benchmark https://github.com/krausest/js-framew... ▶ Ecosystem CI (Vue) https://github.com/vuejs/ecosystem-ci ▶ NativeScript https://nativescript-vue.org/ ▶ TailwindCSS https://tailwindcss.com/ ▶ Kevin Deng (sxzz) https://x.com/sanxiaozhizi ▶ Anthony Fu https://x.com/antfu7 ▶ Daniel Roe https://x.com/danielcroe -- Follow DejaVue on ▶ The Web: https://dejavue.fm/ ▶ Twitter: / dejavuefm ▶ Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... ▶ YouTube: / @dejavuefm ▶ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5VQ15QH... ▶ Deezer: https://www.deezer.com/show/1000792252 ▶ Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/798... ▶ Pocket Casts: https://pca.st/49qr8d1k -- Links marked with * are affiliate links. We get a small commission when you register for the service through our link. This helps us to keep the podcast running. We only include affiliate links for services mentioned in the episode or that we use ourselves.