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What if the line between “us” and “them” is far thinner than we like to believe? In this deeply human conversation, I’m joined by Jennifer Rogers, a coach working from the Three Principles understanding who brings this work into women’s prisons, juvenile detention centres, and marginalised communities in California. We explore: Why one impulsive decision can change an entire life The myth of “bad people” versus scared, overwhelmed humans What real freedom actually is — and why it has nothing to do with circumstance How judgement collapses when we truly see our shared humanity Why insight can’t be forced… and doesn’t need to be This isn’t a conversation about women behind bars. It’s a conversation about all of us — and the invisible prisons we live in inside our own minds. If you’ve ever crossed the street to avoid someone… If you’ve ever thought “that could never be me”… If you’ve ever wondered what sits beyond coping, control, and self-management… This conversation may quietly change the way you see people — including yourself. I share reflections like this weekly in my Wisdom Wednesday conversations — spaces for honest, unscripted exploration of what it really means to be human.