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Natalie Brunell and David Marcus, Co-Founder & CEO of Lightspark, former PayPal President and Meta executive, talk about why Bitcoin will become the Internet of Money and why it’s still massively undervalued compared to gold. We discuss: Bitcoin’s path to surpassing gold Stablecoins and tokenization on Bitcoin AI, micropayments, and the future of commerce Lightspark’s Spark: faster, cheaper Bitcoin payments Follow David Marcus on X https://x.com/davidmarcus 📖 Pre-order Natalie's new book "Bitcoin is For Everyone," available November 18, 2025. https://harriman-house.com/authors/na... ⚡Coin Stories is powered by Gemini Invest as you spend with the Gemini Credit Card. Sign up today to earn a $200 intro Bitcoin bonus. Learn more at https://www.gemini.com/natalie ⚡*Bitwise* has over $10B in client assets, 32 investment products, and a team of 100+ employees across the US and Europe, all solely focused on Bitcoin and digital assets since 2017. Learn more at https://www.bitwiseinvestments.com ⚡ Ledn is the global leader in Bitcoin-backed loans, issuing over $9 billion in loans since 2018, and they were the first to offer proof of reserves. With Ledn, you get custody loans, no credit checks and no monthly payments. Get .25% off your first loan -- Learn more at https://www.Ledn.io/natalie Natalie's Products and Events: ⚡ Lightning Payments - Use Speed Lightning Wallet, play Bitcoin trivia and win up to 1 million free sats! Sign up with promo code COINSTORIES10: https://www.speed.app/coinstories 🔒 Bitkey Cold Storage - Bitkey was named to TIME's prestigious Best Inventions of 2024 in the category of Privacy & Security. Get 20% off using code STORIES at https://bitkey.world 👩🏫 1-on-1 Bitcoin Help – My go-to for help with self-custody, privacy, and VPN support is The Bitcoin Way: https://www.thebitcoinway.com/natalie 🧠 Bitcoin Education - Genius Group (NYSE: $GNS) is building a 10,000 BTC treasury and educating the world through the Genius Academy. Check out free courses from Saifedean Ammous and myself at https://www.geniusgroup.ai ⛏️ * Become a Bitcoin Miner * – Earn passive Bitcoin income with industry-leading uptime, renewable energy, ideal climate, expert support, and one month of free hosting when you join Abundant Mines at https://www.AbundantMines.com/Natalie 🎟️ *Bitcoin 2026 | Bitcoin MENA * – Use code HODL for discounted passes! https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-20... 📲 SIM Swap Protection – Secure your mobile phone from hacks that could steal your Bitcoin with Efani, trusted by CEOs, VIPs and top corporations: https://www.efani.com/natalie 🏥 Ditch Fiat Health Insurance – Join CrowdHealth: https://joincrowdhealth.com/natalie (or use promo code NATALIE) 🏕️ Bitcoin Retreat – Camp Nakamoto – Discounted passes with code HODL: https://massadoptionbtc.ticketspice.c... IN THIS COIN STORIES EPISODE 00:00 Building Lightspark 1:52 Bitcoin as a Medium of Exchange 3:05 Does Bitcoin Threaten the Dollar? 4:22 Gemini Bitcoin Credit Card | Bitwise | Ledn Bitcoin-backed Loans 5:59 What Is the Lightning Network? 8:06 Stablecoins on Bitcoin via Spark 13:31 “Stablechange" 16:44 Global Dollarization 20:40 Speed Wallet | Bitkey | The Bitcoin Way | Genius Academy 22:30 The Dollar’s Future and Multipolar World 26:03 Tokenizing Assets 30:12 Bitcoin Adoption, Liquidity, Lightning 33:46 Bitcoin: More Than a Store of Value 37:10 AI, Micropayments, Bitcoin 38:16 Lightspark Grid 40:46 Bitcoin Price Prediction OTHER RESOURCES Natalie Brunell’s website https://www.talkingbitcoin.com/ Lightspark https://www.lightspark.com/ FOLLOW NATALIE BRUNELL ON SOCIAL MEDIA X https://x.com/natbrunell / nataliebrunell / nataliebrunell Producer: Aron Bender / aron-bender Editor: Silas Foley 📄 LEGAL & RISK DISCLOSURE 1. No Financial Advice: This content is for entertainment purposes only and not intended as financial, legal, or tax advice. I am not a licensed financial advisor. Always consult a professional. 2. Sponsored Content & Affiliate Links: I may receive compensation when you use them, which helps support the channel at no additional cost to you. 3. Crypto Risk Warning: Cryptocurrencies are highly volatile and speculative. Risks include loss of capital, extreme price swings, and lack of regulatory protection. 4. Jurisdiction Notice: This content may not be appropriate for residents of jurisdictions where digital asset promotions are restricted or prohibited. Please verify your local laws before engaging. 5. Accuracy & Timeliness: All content reflects personal opinion and is based on available information at the time of recording. No guarantees are made regarding accuracy or future performance. #bitcoin #crypto #bitcoinpodcast #macro #stocks #MSTR #Saylor #cryptocurrency #news #update #economy #bonds