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In this episode of Just Press Record, host Matt Zeigler brings together two writers from very different worlds who discover how much they actually share. Author and musician Michael Perry and writer and professor Aaron Gwyn connect over farm life, physical labor, creative discipline, and the unlikely paths that led them to writing books. What begins with stories of rural upbringing and lost fingers turns into a deep conversation about mentorship, gratitude, art, politics, and staying grounded in a world driven by abstractions and online outrage. Main topics covered Growing up on farms and ranches and how physical labor shapes perspective Stories of injury, toughness, and humor in working-class communities How mentors and teachers recognize talent before you do The discipline of practice in athletics, music, and writing Finding confidence through critique rather than praise Imposter syndrome as a source of gratitude and motivation Creativity, literature, and making art without losing touch with real people The danger of parasocial relationships and losing community to politics Why staying human matters more than choosing sides Timestamps 00:00 Introduction and why these two writers needed to meet 01:00 Farm life, injuries, and the humor of hard work 06:00 Rural upbringing, cattle, and growing up working-class 18:00 Toughness, storytelling, and blue-collar humor 25:00 Lost fingers, accidents, and adapting through skill 35:00 Music, guitar, and physical limitations as creative fuel 39:00 Aaron Gwyn’s path from ranch life to writing books 46:00 Michael Perry’s path from nursing to writing and storytelling 52:00 Positive imposter syndrome and gratitude for unlikely success 59:00 Politics, parasocial relationships, and real human connection 01:01:00 Art, community, and staying grounded in a divided world Watch every Just Press Record ever here: • Just Press Record Is your attention span too short for full episodes? Try some shorts here: • Cultish Creative Shorts And if the written word is more your thing, sign up for my mailing list and you can grow your network of ideas and people alongside me: https://cultishcreative.com/