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Jason Cabello joins the Dopey Podcast to discuss his wild journey from managing rock stars like KISS to his new documentary series, "Life After," featuring skateboarding legend Brian Anderson. We dive into the 40th anniversary of Doc McGee’s massive weed bust, the evolution of the queer skateboarding community, and why Jason calls Dave "unmanageable". Plus, a deep dive into "Elsewhere," a recovery program designed specifically for touring musicians and high-level executives. #DopeyPodcast #JasonCabello #BrianAnderson #Skateboarding #KISS #DocMcGee #Recovery #MusicIndustry #podcastinterview 00:00 – Dopey Wednesday Theme & Cold Open 01:02 – Welcome Jason Cabello Back 02:05 – Dopey Music, Ben & Jerry’s Songs, and Old Band Stories 04:41 – Open Mics, Filthiest Nation, and Early Sobriety 05:54 – Brian Anderson: Skateboarding, Recovery, and Coming Out 08:37 – Documentary “Life After” and Early Recovery 10:27 – Smoothies, Diets, and Studio Chaos 11:42 – Elsewhere Program & Touring Musicians in Recovery 15:26 – Dopey Con, VIPs, and Unmanageable Behavior 19:01 – Patreon, Management, and Creative Tension 21:01 – New Dopey Events: Film Festival, Comedy, and Dopey Con 24:53 – Making Amends and Dopey Wood Reflections 26:09 – Listener Email: The Perfect Relationship (Teddy Bear) 28:20 – Jason’s Mom, Cancer, and Caretaking in Recovery 33:16 – Temptation, Trust, and Opiates in the House 36:17 – Weight Loss Drugs, Syringes, and Recovery Awareness 40:57 – Life After Documentary & Dave’s Relationship to Dopey 43:43 – Gratitude, Meditation, and Five Episodes a Week 45:03 – Poems, Emails, and Listener Feedback 48:16 – Meetings, Florida Recovery, and Staying Engaged 51:11 – Jason Meets His Wife (Age Gap & Treatment Story) 54:43 – Adam David, Music Careers, and Creative Discipline 57:24 – Dave Plays “Forever in Debt” 01:02:28 – Final Thoughts, Life After Updates & Goodbyes